S3 E1- Euphoria is SO BACK - Andale Bitches!
Paige Blaser (00:49)
We're back. It's only been what four
Alex (00:50)
back. It's only been what, four?
Paige Blaser (00:53)
is it been four years or like four and a half years? Four years. That's close enough. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck is up? What's up euphorans? This feels weird. I feel like my voice has kind of matured.
Alex (00:53)
Has it been four years or like four and a half years? Four years. That's close enough. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck is up, Euphorians? What's up, Euphorians? This feels weird. I feel like my voice has kind of matured. I don't have as much
Paige Blaser (01:07)
I don't have as much vocally. I don't have as much vocal fry. no, I'm sure it's ⁓ still in effect. I've been working on it. I'm sure the fans will ⁓ well the haters will roast you for it as usual. Bring it.
Alex (01:07)
voice. Off to a stupid star. I don't have as much vocal fry. ⁓ no, I'm sure it's ⁓ still in effect. I've been working on it. I'm sure the fans will ⁓ well the haters will roast you for it as usual. Yeah.
Paige Blaser (01:21)
Don't care. Yep, cool. What a hiatus. Such a hiatus. Who knew it would be four years when we wrapped up season two? I know, and I mean everything's changed. Not just euphoria, but like the podcasting world in itself. I was looking
Alex (01:21)
Don't care. Yep, cool. Wow, what a hiatus. Such a hiatus. Who knew it would be four years when we wrapped up season two. I know, and I mean everything's changed. Not just euphoria, but like the podcasting world in itself. I was looking through
Paige Blaser (01:37)
through some of our old footage and I was just like, wow, like everything has changed so much in terms of what podcasting looks like. When we were doing it, no one like had a podcast. Now it's like
Alex (01:37)
some of our old footage and I was just like, Wow, like everything has changed so much in terms of what podcasting looks like. When we were doing it, no one like had a podcast. Now it's like
Paige Blaser (01:51)
everyone and their mom has a podcast. Like
Alex (01:51)
Everyone and their mom has a podcast. Like
it is the default. If you're not doing anything in your career, you have a podcast. No, I feel like we already hit peak podcasting though. Like there was like the era where it was like the Obamas have a podcast, like Harry and his wife have a podcast. And then that kinda like tanked and like none of that worked out. So now I feel like we're on the decline where less people have podcasts than a couple of years ago. Sure. Sure. The bubble bursts a little bit. Compared to when we started though, like
Paige Blaser (01:54)
It is the default. If you're not doing anything in your career, you have a podcast. No, I feel like we already hit peak podcasting though. Like there was like the era where it was like the Obamas have a podcast, like Harry and his wife have a podcast. And then that kinda like tanked and like none of that worked out. So now I feel like we're on the decline where less people have podcasts than a couple years ago. Sure, sure. The bubble bursts a little bit. Compared to when we started
Like
it's insane. Yeah, we we really have been through it like, you know, we were coastered, we were there when everyone did, and I feel like we're on the backside now, we're s it's less and less people, I think, lately. Yeah, I agree. But not only have we been on a hiatus, euphoria has been out of mind, out of sight for so long that I'm overwhelmed. It's like so we haven't podcasted in four years and we haven't thought about euphoria. Ignored it.
Alex (02:19)
It's insane. Yeah, we we really have been through it, like, you know. We were here when no one did, we were there when everyone
I feel like we're on the backside now, we're s less and less people, I think, lately. Yeah, I agree. But not only have we been on a hiatus, euphoria has been out of mind, out of sight for so long. I'm overwhelmed. It's like so we haven't podcasted in four years and we haven't thought about it. Ignored it.
So I think with that being said, we need to get into some cooks. It feels good to be back. Hell yeah. Let's pop some cooks, baby.
Paige Blaser (02:48)
So I think with that being said, we need to get into some cooks, because I need some liquid courage. I need some like cooks, baby. Definite
Alex (02:55)
Definite liquid curve. But he's taking his time opening the cooks, because as we know, ⁓ you can't watch Euphoria without cooks. my god be careful. I'm scared. I hate when you shoot that thing at me. I'm not gonna shoot it. Ugh. I should try and get the sound on the
Paige Blaser (02:56)
liquid courage. Alps is gonna get us set up. But while Alms is taking his time opening the cooks, cause as we know You can't watch Euphoria without cooks. I'm like, be careful, I'm scared. I hate when you shoot that thing at me. I'm not gonna shoot it. Ugh. I should try and get the sound on the
Alex (03:15)
on the mic.
Paige Blaser (03:15)
On the mic.
I'm just kidding, I don't want to break the mic. We'll get the sound of it, ⁓ post edit. Post edit, that's what podcasters say. Uh-huh. Is that what they say? That's what they say. Cool. okay, you have to warn me though when you pop it. I hate this. You would think I'd be used to this, but I'm never used to it. You're supposed to make it whisper. That's how you know you're good. I know. And we're going really classy. I gotta cover my ears. my god.
Alex (03:16)
I'm just kidding, I wanna break the mic. I've got the sound of it ⁓ post edit boring, you know. Post edit, that's what podcasters say. Uh-huh. ⁓ Is that what they say? That's what they say. Cool. okay, you have to warn me though when you pop it. I hate this. You would think I'd be used to this, but I'm never used to it. You're supposed to make it whisper. That's how you know you're good. I know. It's fine. And we're going really classy. I got curvators.
Paige Blaser (03:44)
It's also my god! my god, imagine it explodes. ⁓ beautiful. No bubbles. Okay, we're going really classy. Classy always over here. That's so euphoric. Wow, thank you, Alex. The sound of that. You're so wild. That's like a little sip. Well you gotta let the phone go down all the way, you know. Thank you.
Alex (03:44)
It's also my god. ⁓ my god, imagine it explodes. ⁓ beautiful. No bubbles though that's Okay, we're going really classy. Classy always over here. That's so euphoric. Wow, thank you, Alex. The sound of that. You're so that's like a little sip. Well you gotta let the phone go down a little bit, you know. Thank you.
Paige Blaser (04:09)
It's also like a thousand degrees in this studio. I'm actually sweating. I feel like pouring this on my body. We're in the cave over here. All right. Well this is a much, much needed toast. Cheers. Also Cheers to that city fork, but I also feel like we should pour one out for Eric Dane, Angus Cloud, and then Kevin O'Turin, I think is his last name. Yeah, the producer.
Alex (04:09)
It's also like a thousand degrees in this studio. I'm actually sweating. I feel like pouring this on my body. We're in the cave over here. All right. Well, this is a much, much needed toast. Cheers to cheers. Cheers to that so euphoric, but I also feel like we should pour one out for Eric Dane, Angus Cloud, and then Kevin ⁓ Turin, I think is his last name. Yeah, the producer.
We have a lot of things. Yeah. But yeah, I would say first, yeah. Cheers to them.
Paige Blaser (04:34)
We have a lot of things, yeah. But yeah, I think it's totally right. I would say first, yeah, cheers to them. Cheers
to them. Agree.
That's good. Kyle made the right choice in season one with the I'll also say, you know, cheers to the fans. I've been ⁓ genuinely kind of touched by the way that people have sent us messages lately saying they're excited for it to be back. Like I didn't expect that at all. I figured in four years everyone would just fucking forget about us. So it's been ⁓ kind of cute and sweet seeing people like give a shit. That's really sweet. Cheers to the fans. Cheers. Poor one out for the fans.
Alex (04:44)
good. Cal made the right choice in season one with the I'll also say, you know, cheers to the fans.
I've been genuinely kind of touched by the way that people have sent us messages lately saying they're excited for it to be back. Like I didn't expect that at all. I figured in four years everyone would just fucking forget about us. So it's been ⁓ kinda cute and sweet seeing people like give a shit. That's really sweet. Cheers to the fans. Cheers. Pour one out for the fans.
And then you know, one more for euphoria. my god. We're back. I keep going to put it down. We're gonna get me drunk before we start.
Paige Blaser (05:13)
And then, you know, one more for Euphoria. my god. I keep going to put it down. You're gonna get me drunk before we start.
Alright, that's all. It's not possible. That's the fine. okay, that cook smells good though, tastes good. I'm feeling refreshed. But yeah, no, it's wild. I'm like over I'm literally the most overwhelmed I have ever been. This is just crazy. I don't know where to start other than wow, euphoria has been a shit show without the show even
Alex (05:20)
Alright, that's all. It's not possible. That's especially honest. okay, that cook smells good though, tastes good. I'm feeling refreshed. But yeah, no, it's wild. I'm like over I'm literally the most overwhelmed I have ever been. This is just crazy. I don't know where to start other than wow, euphoria.
shit show without the show even
beginning. There has been so much shit that's gone down in like the past month. I feel like during the hiatus a lot's happened, sure, but especially within the month leading up to this, I think it's just amplified by like a thousand. Yeah. Like I told Alex to be fully, fully transparent, I told Alex, I said this season I really wanna like switch gears. Like I wanna be more attentive to the actual episode itself and not
Paige Blaser (05:43)
Beginning. There has been so much shit that's gone down in like the past month. I feel like during the hiatus, a lot's happened, sure, but especially within the month leading up to this, I think it's just amplified by like a thousand. Yeah. Like I told Alex to be fully, fully transparent. I told Alex, I said, this season I really want to like switch gears. Like I wanna be more attentive to the actual episode itself and not
Alex (06:11)
Not like base too much of the episode on like gossip, on like the cast, because like we we have fun doing. Focus on the art. Yes, the art. We wanted to elevate the pod, if you will. I agree. But I still agree. But as you remember when I said that, to be fair, like not this much news had come out. Like I did not expect Labyrinth to come out and be like double fuck euphoria. I didn't really know that Sydney Sweeney was gonna just go completely insane. I didn't know.
Paige Blaser (06:11)
not like
Base too much of the episode on like gossip, on like the cast, because like we we had fun doing this. On the art. Yes, the art. We wanted to elevate the pod, if you will. I agree. But I still agree. But as you remember when I said that, to be fair, like not this much news had come out. Like I did not expect a labyrinth to come out and be like double fuck euphoria. I didn't really know that Sidney Sweeney was gonna just go completely insane.
I didn't know
Alex (06:40)
⁓ Full Nazi. Yeah, like it's just it's a lot to like unpack. So this episode, I feel like we we kind of have to talk about.
Paige Blaser (06:41)
Full Nazi. Yeah, like it's just it it's a lot to like unpack. So this episode I feel like it we we kinda have to talk about it. Like especially 'cause a lot of our listeners were like, I hope you like give your take on this because we can be pretty sassy. Sure. So I think people want to hear what we have to you know say. And I I personally want to talk about it. I would be absolutely lying.
Alex (06:49)
It like especially because a lot of our listeners were like, I hope you like give your take on this because we can be pretty sassy. Sure. So I think people want to hear what we have to you know say. And I I personally want to talk about it. I would be absolutely lying.
Let's get into it. Yeah. What are our major stuff? I hope that like, you know, we are gonna try this season though, like genuinely, unless like bullshit just keeps rolling in. Alex and I both have like talked about how we want this to be more focused on the show and more on the fictional characters than like
Paige Blaser (07:01)
Let's get into it. Yeah. What are our major stuff? But for future. I hope that like, you know, we are gonna try this season though, like genuinely, unless like bullshit just keeps rolling in. Alex and I both have like talked about how we want this to be more focused on the show and more on the fictional characters than like
Alex (07:19)
the cast. Like it's like let them be. Uhhuh. We just want to get into euphoria. But that being said, I mean yeah, we'll start I feel like I have to start with Labyrinth since I dropped that like
Paige Blaser (07:19)
the cast. Like it's like let them be we just wanna get into euphoria. But that being said, I mean, yeah, we'll start I feel like I have to start with Labyrinth since I dropped that like
I feel like that was the most shocking personally to me. Like I'll let you say it otherwise, but I that was crazy. Like he What's euphoria without
Alex (07:30)
I feel like that was the most shocking personally to me. Mm-hmm. Like all that you say otherwise. But I that was crazy. Like he What's Euphoria without
Labyrinth? Like, you know, I know I'm on record not loving his music for the show, but you could never deny that he created a very unique sonic identity for Euphoria that is like explicitly euphoria. You immediately associate that sound with the show. So to lose like, you know, someone that was so tied
Paige Blaser (07:40)
Labyrinth, like, you know. I know I'm on record not loving his music for the show, but you could never deny that he created a very unique sonic identity for Euphoria that is like explicitly euphoria. You immediately associate that sound with the show. So to lose like, you know, someone that was so tied
Alex (08:00)
To it, especially like not just creating the music, but he's literally in it. He's acting in it in the show in season two. So,
Paige Blaser (08:00)
to it, especially like not just creating the music, but he's literally in it. He's acting in it, yeah. In season two. ⁓ So
Alex (08:08)
you know, to lose someone that was that integral to the show is a substantial loss, I would say. We'll see how it all plays out, but yeah, and I don't of course, like we know nothing, right? We don't know what really happened. All we can look at is what he's been saying online. So, I mean, there's been so many rumors, you know, and I'm not here to like say.
Paige Blaser (08:08)
You know, to lose someone that was that integral to the show is a lot of loss, I would say. We'll see how it all plays out, but Yeah, and I don't of course, like, we know nothing, right? We don't know what really happened. All we can look at is what he's been saying online. So I mean there's been so many rumors, you know, and I'm not here to like say
Alex (08:30)
what I think happened. It's more that I can say without diving into the episode yet,
Paige Blaser (08:30)
what I think happened. It's more that I can say without diving into the episode yet.
Alex (08:35)
I'd be interested to hear your take on this. I'm already kind of bummed. I'm not gonna lie. I think I do kind of miss his sound in season three already. And it's just starting. Not the entire episode. Like I don't need all the
Paige Blaser (08:36)
I'd be interested to hear your take on this. I'm already kinda bummed. I'm not gonna lie. I think I do kind of miss his sound in season three already, and it's just starting. Not the entire episode. Like I don't need all the
like every minute. Like all the whooping and I really don't. Like I have like matured in that way. I get that like as the show progresses, it's less needed, maybe, because it's not high school, it's not
Alex (08:51)
Like every minute. Like all the whooping and I really don't. Like I have like matured in that way. I get that like as the show progresses it's less needed maybe 'cause it's not high school, it's not
just partying. It is like maturing. So I'm not needing it every second, but I do kinda miss it. Like I do think it's like missing that little euphoric touch. There was once in the episode where I like thought it was about to come in. Like I expected
Paige Blaser (09:04)
Just partying, it is like maturing. So I'm not needing it every second, but I do kind of miss it. Like I do think it's like missing that little euphoric touch. There was once in the episode where I like thought it was about to come in. Like I expected his
Alex (09:21)
His song to like come on. And so I guess like
Paige Blaser (09:21)
song to like come in. ⁓ so I guess like
Alex (09:26)
that's what I'm surprised that you're that. How closely associated it is that I like expected that you know musical cue to like drop in at a certain point. I mean, I I feel like with this season so far, the whole western theme, it's like, yeah, like that's what I meant by I don't really picture needing all the labyrinth like typical elements. But that being said, I'm like, it just doesn't feel the same without him at all.
Paige Blaser (09:26)
That's funny. I I I'm surprised to hear that from you. I mean I I feel like with this season so far, the whole Western theme, it's like, yeah, like that's what I meant by I don't really picture needing all the labyrinth like typical
Elements, but that being said, I'm like, it just doesn't feel the same without him at
all. And I fully back Labyrinth. I love him so much. I've seen him live. Like we've only spoken highly of him on the show. So yeah, like I feel sorry for him. Like if he says double fuck euphoria, I'm pretty like something must have gone down. Like I don't think he would just put that out there. He's not giving that type of personality. He's always been very humble, like very calm, not on social media a lot.
Alex (09:50)
And I fully back Labyrinth. I love him so much. I've seen him live. Like we've only spoken highly of him on the show. So yeah, like I feel sorry for him. Like if he says double fuck euphoria, I'm pretty like something must have gone down.
Like th I don't think he would just put that out there. He's not giving that type of personality. He's always been very humble, like very calm, not on social media a lot.
So who knows? Maybe him and Hans gotten like a a fist fight. Have you been seeing the Han Zimmer memes? No. There's all these funny like memes of him like shirtless, like leading an orchestra and it's like Han Zimmer like cracked out on Coke, like getting ready for euphoria. So yeah, he was doing his research. Yeah, so Yeah, I mean
Paige Blaser (10:14)
So, who knows? Maybe him and Hans gotten like a a fist fight. Have you been seeing the Hans Zimmer memes? No. There's all these funny like memes of him like shirtless, like leading an orchestra and it's like Hans Zimmer, like cracked out on Coke, like getting ready for euphoria. Yeah, he was doing his research. Yeah, so Yeah, I mean
We
Alex (10:35)
We don't know the details yet, but knowing how disputes between artists and labels or studios go, it's pretty much always the the artist that's on the right side of that. So I'm inclined to be Team Lab for life extra supportive of Lab Lab because I pro I believe he probably got fucked in some way. He definitely did. So Labyrinth if you hear us, we love ya and we support ya. And the show's not the same without ya.
Paige Blaser (10:35)
don't know the details yet, but knowing how disputes between artists and labels or studios go, it's pretty much always the the artist that's on the right side of that. So I'm inclined to be Team Lab for life. Love you lab. I believe he probably got fucked in some way. He definitely did. So, Labyrinth, if you hear us, we love ya and we support you. And the show's not the same without you.
But double fuck you for is a little strong, so I won't say that. But but you can say it, King. You say it. Go on. What else? I mean I feel like the premiere it we'd be remiss not bringing up anything about it. It definitely was a little weird. Just every interaction was so off.
Alex (11:02)
But double fucky for is little strong, so I won't say that. But but you can say it, King. You you say it. So what else? What else? I mean, I feel like the premiere it we'd be remiss not bringing up anything about it. It definitely was a little weird.
just every interaction was so off
and it does make you kinda like wonder like what the hell is going on behind the scenes. Like I don't again I know nothing. And Alps makes a good point. Whenever I like tell him any stories, you're always like, it's just rumor mill. Like it's just bullshit. Like none of it is confirmed. Meaning you don't get as interested as I do. I get like amped. I'm like, my god, like people saw like people just read so much into it. Any one of those like awkward interactions could just be like a an awkward interaction. Like it doesn't
Paige Blaser (11:22)
And it does make you kinda like wonder like what the hell is going on behind the scenes? Like I don't again, I know nothing. And y Alice makes a good point. Whenever I like tell him any stories, you're always like, It's just rumor mill, like it's just bullshit. Like none of it is confirmed.
Meaning you don't get as interested as I do. I get like amped. I'm like, my god, like people saw like people just read so much into it. Any one of those like awkward interactions could just be like a an awkward interaction. Like it doesn't
Alex (11:49)
Doesn't always mean that there's like, you know, all this personal history and beef behind it. And we don't fucking know. So until I like know more, I'm like, I'm just not that interested. But I am. I'm like, like I I'll rewatch a video like five times and like read all the comments and be like, yes, yes, like I see it. But that's because I have my own take on it. Like I was telling Alex, like there
Paige Blaser (11:49)
always mean that there's like, you know, all this personal history and beef behind it. And we don't fucking know. So until I like know more, I'm like, I'm just not that interested. But I am. I'm like, like I I'll rewatch a video like five times and like read all the comments and be like, Yes, yes. Like I see it. But that's because I have my own take on it. Like I was telling Alex like
There
Alex (12:08)
are like valid like remarks on how that premiere went, and I'm like, yeah, like there
Paige Blaser (12:08)
are like valid like remarks on how that premiere went and I'm like, yeah, like there were times when like Sydney would be tapping Alexa's shoulder and she would look at her like I couldn't give a shit about you right now, but I'm gonna be professional and just say hello. I mean everybody we can probably agree that everybody to some degree has some tension with her given her
Alex (12:13)
when like Sydney would be tapping Alexa's shoulder and she would look at her like I couldn't give a shit about you right now, but I'm gonna be professional and just say hello. I mean everybody we can probably agree that everybody to some degree has some tension with her given her
you know the the personal politics that have developed for her over the last few years. I really remember I mean that one's pretty I would say that's like the least rumory of everything. Like I bet a lot of these like
Paige Blaser (12:30)
Yeah. The the personal politics that have developed for her over the last few years. ⁓ I literally wrote in my notes that's that one's pretty I would say that's like the least rumory of everything. Like I bet a lot of these like
you know queer artists are probably not super happy with her, understandably. I literally wrote my notes like Sydney Sweeney where to start because it's like I don't need to spend all my time on her, like and I don't really want to. Also, I realized in our past episodes, if you re listen, which we have not in a while, because it's been
Alex (12:43)
you know, queer artists are probably not super happy with her, understandably. I literally wrote my notes like Sydney Sweeney where to start 'cause it's like I don't need to spend all my time on her, like and I don't really want to. Also I realized in our past episodes, if you re-listen, which we have not in a while, it's been
Paige Blaser (13:00)
Four fucking years and we're not listening to our own selves. But if you listen to our old our most recent, we just go in on her on a bunch of stuff. So I'm like, we were a little like not ahead of the time, so we definitely like saw her downfall kind of coming. I think we ripped her for
Alex (13:00)
four fucking years and we're not listening to our own selves, but if you listen to our old our most recent, we just go in on her on a bunch of stuff. So I'm like we were a little like not ahead of the time, so we definitely like saw her downfall kinda kinda. I we ripped her for
the MAGA birthday party. Yeah, we did. And that was people really soft on that. Like people were kind of forgiving and you were definitely pretty hard on it. So I think that was just the beginning. We didn't This is just the beginning. We were just scratching the surface back then. That it was right.
Paige Blaser (13:13)
the MAGA birthday party. Yeah, we did. And people were really soft on that. Like people were kind of forgiving, and you were definitely pretty hard on it. So I think that was just the beginning. We didn't know. This is just the beginning. Maddie was right.
Alex (13:28)
This is just the beginning. Yeah. No. So I don't yeah, I don't really need to go too deep on that. I feel like as the season progresses, it'll probably come up without even needing to. But the only other thing that is like kind of makes me bombed
Paige Blaser (13:28)
This is just the beginning. No. So I don't yeah, I don't really need to go too deep on that. I feel like as the season progresses, it it'll probably come up without even needing to. But the only other thing that is like kinda makes me bombed
and like is weird to me is the whole like Zendaya Sam Levinson supposed fallout. I will be honest, before the premiere, I definitely was like, That's bullshit. Like that's just a complete rumor. I don't see it. And now that the show's starting
Alex (13:41)
Weird to me is the whole like Zenday Sam Levinson supposed fallout. I will be honest, before the premiere, I definitely was like, That's bullshit. Like, that's just a complete rumor. I don't see it. And now that the show's starting,
it is weird to me. Like, I don't feel like Zendaya's promoted it that much. I haven't really seen her talk about it as much as like she used to, with like the excitement she used to have for it. I think it's very robotic. Like anytime she's done interview.
Paige Blaser (13:57)
It is weird to me. Like I don't feel like Zendaya's promoted it that much. I haven't really seen her talk about it as much as like she used to with like the excitement she used to have for it. I think it's very robotic. Like anytime she's done interviews,
Alex (14:10)
Interviews. To be fair, she's doing like eight movies, but like Euphor is huge. Like that's like her big thing. It's like her claim to her fame, I guess, if you want to say. Like
Paige Blaser (14:11)
to be fair, she's doing like eight movies, but like Euphor is huge. Like that's like her big thing. It's like her claim to her fame, I guess, if you wanna say. Like
Alex (14:23)
she was doing stuff before, but you know, it was a big deal, and it makes me a little bummed. And we'll get into it later, but there's a lot circulating about Sam. So it does make me like wonder. She's so she's just so like legit, and I do think she's a professional, so it kind of I can't
Paige Blaser (14:23)
She was doing stuff before, but you know, it was a big deal, and it makes me a little bummed, and we'll get into it later, but there's a lot circulating about Sam. So it does make me like wonder because she's so She's just so like legit, and I do think she's a professional, so it kinda I
can't help but kinda wonder, like, there's gotta be something in the water.
Alex (14:40)
can't help but kind of wonder like there's gotta be something in the water.
I don't know. I feel like there's far too little there's far too little real information about this for me to have any opinion on it. Same. And I'm not like I'm not too interested like again like rehashing anything, but I do I personally am like bummed about it.
Paige Blaser (14:46)
Of course you don't care. I know you don't care but there's far too little real information about this for me to have any opinion on that. Same. And I'm not like I'm not too interested, like again, like rehashing anything, but I do I personally am like bummed about it and
I know fans are too. Like it's not fun to see like the creator of your favorite show dodge like the actor on the carpet. You're like, damn, like shit's going down. They don't seem to be homies anymore.
Alex (15:00)
Fans are too. Like, it's not fun to see like the creator of your favorite show dodge like the actor on the carpet. You're like, damn, like shit's going down. They don't seem to be homies anymore.
Whatever. It could literally just be creative differences. They argued for like how long about what length the time jump should be and how to do the next season and stuff. I mean, that was going on forever and ever. They could have just had very differing opinions about what the third season should look like. It could be as simple as.
Paige Blaser (15:13)
Whatever. It could literally just be creative differences. They argued for like how long about and what length the time jump should be and how to do the next season and stuff. I mean that was going on for this is a long time. They could've just had very differing opinions about what the third season should look like. It could be as simple as
Alex (15:30)
Or it could be super shady. Who the hell knows? Yeah. Were there any other funny rumors before I bring up some headlines? Because I actually wanted to surprise you with reading you some of the headlines before we like really dive into the episode. No,
Paige Blaser (15:30)
that. Or it could be super shady. Who the hell knows? Yeah. Were there any other funny rumors before I bring up some headlines? Because I actually wanted to surprise you with reading you some of the headlines before we like really dive into the episode.
No, I don't I mean nothing on the You love Heroes Nothing on the You love Castrama. No, nothing? No. Jacob Lordy was nominated for an Oscar. That's cool. ⁓ okay. I'll do it to that.
Alex (15:43)
I mean nothing on my rumors. Nothing on my love past drama. No, nothing. No. Jacob Walorty was nominated for an Oscar. That's cool. ⁓ okay. I'll move to that.
Paige Blaser (15:55)
He's been killing it. Talk about one of them that's like taking advantage of their
Alex (15:55)
He's been killing it. Sure. Talk about one of them that's like taking advantage of their
career pathing. Like I feel like he's the only one in my opinion, other than Zendaya, of course, that's like really like skyrocketed to fame, but in a cool way. Like has done shit that you and I like have really enjoyed. ⁓ he was in O Canada, directed by Paul Schrader, one of my favorite directors. Yeah. That was cool. Frankenstein was cool. He was so good in that. What else has he done that's been interesting? Weldering heights, which I saw. Alex did not. Okay. Big shocker. It was very prude. It was not euphorious I thought. Yeah. Kind of boring.
Paige Blaser (16:02)
Career pathing. Like I feel like he's the only one, in my opinion, other than Zendaya, of course, that's like really like skyrocketed to fame, but in a cool way. Like has done shit that you and I like have really enjoyed. he was in O Canada, directed by Paul Schrader, one of my favorite directors. Yeah. That was cool. ⁓ he was good in that. Frankenstein was cool. He was so good in that. What else has he done that's been a Wathering Heights, which I saw. Alex did not. Big shocker. ⁓ it was very prude. It was not euphorious, I thought. Yeah. Kind of boring.
Alex (16:32)
But but he was I told you though, he carried it on his back, like he was the only one I liked in it. Mm-hmm. But yeah, no, he's done a ton. Yeah. He also did that one really weird one that we love we we did like. I forgot the director's name, but it was really bizarre and we saw it in theaters.
Paige Blaser (16:32)
But but he was I told you though, he carried it on his back. Like he was the only one I liked in it. But yeah, no, he's done a ton. Yeah. He also did that one really weird one that we love we we did like. I forgot the director's name, but it was really bizarre and we saw it in theaters.
I'll bring it up later if we can't remember it, but it was like really, really bizarre. It was all over the place. Like it there was a main girl as the lead. You're talking about the Sweet East? Was he in that? Yes, yes. Okay. Yes, he was in that.
Alex (16:47)
I'll bring it up later if we can't remember it. But it was like really. What was it about? It was all over the place. Like it there was a main girl as the lead. You're talking about the sweeties. Was he in the Yes, yes. Okay. Yes, he was in that.
Yep, that was good. I liked that too. Yeah. Saltburn. You didn't like, I like I did not like Saltburn. what's the other big one? Anyways. Whatever, he's done well. Yeah, his catalogue is great. Good job. Good resume, Jacob. Loving it. Impressed. A lot a long way from Kissing Booth. One and two.
Paige Blaser (17:01)
He's won it a lot. Yeah. Saltburn. You didn't like, I like. I did not like Saltburn. what's the other big one? Anyways. Whatever. He's done well. Yeah, his catalogue is great. Good job. Good resume, Jacob. Loving it. Impressed. A lot a long way from Kissing Booth. One and two.
Alex (17:17)
Mm-hmm. Never forget kissing boob.
Paige Blaser (17:17)
Mm-hmm. Never forget Kissing Booth.
Alex (17:22)
forget it. No, never forget it. Never forget where you came from, you know? Never forget it. Australia? Okay, but anyways. So let me bring up these headlines. Yeah, headlines. Because I'm like, before we dive in, I will be honest, I'm s I'm not surprised actually. Every season I feel like people are very negative. People meaning the press. Like I didn't pull fan thing, because I'm no offense, like fans.
Paige Blaser (17:22)
Forget it. No, never forget it. Never forget where you came from, you know? Never forget it. Australia? Okay, but anyways. So let me bring up these headlines. Yeah, I have 'Cause I'm like before we dive in, I will be honest, I'm s I'm not surprised actually. Every season I feel like people are very negative.
People meaning the press. Like I didn't pull fan th because I'm no offense, like fans.
Alex (17:47)
Okay. Like you either watch it because you like it or you don't, and that's fine, but I mean the fans only saw it with less than twelve hours ago, so sure, sure. But okay. I'm just gonna read you some things and I would like to see your genuine reaction because some of these are like really crazy and harsh. Okay, The Guardian. Okay.
Paige Blaser (17:48)
Okay. Like you either watch it 'cause you like it or you don't and that's fine, but I mean the fans only saw it one episode twelve hours ago, so Sure, sure. But okay. I'm just gonna read you some things and I would like to see your genuine reaction 'cause some of these are like really crazy and harsh. Okay, The Guardian. Okay.
Alex (18:07)
It's a grubby, humorless work of torture porn that's obsessed with and repulsed by sex work.
Paige Blaser (18:08)
It's a grubby, humorless work of torture porn that's obsessed with and repulsed by sex work.
Wow. That is the like headlining like. I mean I guess the one thing that's gonna be hard to judge about any of these is that they've seen three episodes and we've seen one. ⁓ 'cause that's how many of the critics ⁓ were shown.
Alex (18:19)
That is the like headlining like I mean I guess the one thing that's gonna be hard to judge about any of these is that they've seen three episodes and we've seen one. ⁓ 'cause that's how many of the critics were shown.
So, I mean obviously there's like barely any s there's probably zero sex work, maybe a little bit in episode one, right? I'm assuming they're referring to jewels, but
Paige Blaser (18:31)
So I mean obviously there's like barely any s there's probably zero sex work, maybe a little bit in episode one, right? I'm assuming they're referring to jewels, but
episode one didn't really have Well, I think they're categorizing oddly as Cassius sex work.
Alex (18:40)
Episode one didn't really have well, I think they're categorizing oddly. I guess like City Sweeney talking about doing OnlyFans,
but it nothing's really happened yet in episode one. So I'm guessing this is like a reference to the upcoming episodes. So it's hard to have an opinion. Episode one, I don't think. I certainly don't feel like it's humorless. It's very ⁓ it's just as like irreverent and like, you know, intentionally over the top as it's always been. So I can't say I think it's humorless and I'll be
Paige Blaser (18:47)
But it nothing's really happened yet in episode one. So I'm guessing this is like a reference to the upcoming episodes. So it's hard to have an opinion. Episode one, I don't think. Don't you think that's kind of a drastic like review though? I certainly don't feel like it's humorless. It's very ⁓ it's funny. Over the top as it's always been. So I can't say I think it's humorless, and I'll
Alex (19:10)
Be really surprised if it goes torture porn, because even though it's been graphic, it's never been
Paige Blaser (19:10)
be really surprised if it goes torture porn, because even though it's been graphic, it's never been
Alex (19:15)
super graphically violent at length. Like there have certainly been graphically violent, you know, scenes with flashes of violence, but like it's never been like this extended, like no torture porn exercise with a ton of whatever graphic violence. Again, I'm continuously surprised, I will say, just wha how we're still here, I guess, in terms of.
Paige Blaser (19:17)
super graphically violent. No. At length. Like there've certainly been graphically violent, you know, scenes with flashes of violence, but like it's never been like this extended, like torture porn exercise with a ton of whatever, graphic violence. Again, I'm continuously surprised, I will say, just wh how we're still here, I guess, in terms of
Alex (19:40)
People having reviews that are based on like the explicitness of the show. I'm kind of like,
Paige Blaser (19:40)
people having reviews that are based on like the explicitness of the show. I'm kinda like
Alex (19:45)
hello, like, aren't we grow up? Two seasons. Yes, there's gonna be boobs. Yes, there's gonna be sex. Yes, there's drugs. Crazy. It's disappointing. That's what the whole show is. Disappointing at this point, I would say. I do feel like it's a little crazy. Okay, so that was that's a lot though. Then there is the show has lost its this is the BBC, which we don't really give a fuck about.
Paige Blaser (19:45)
Hello, like aren't we Grow up. Two seasons. Yes, there's gonna be boobs. Yes, there's gonna be sex. Yes, there's drugs. Crazy disappointments. That's the whole show's about. Yeah, I do feel like it's a little crazy. Okay, so that was that's a lot though. Then there is the show has lost its this is the BBC, which we don't really give a fuck about,
Alex (20:08)
But
Paige Blaser (20:08)
but
Alex (20:08)
let me hear it anyways, but yeah. The show has lost its zeitgeisty edge. Euphoria has become a series with very little to say. None of it is audacious or compelling. Based on three episodes of eight that HBO made available in advance, it is a strained attempt to make the closed circle of friends it follows now in their early twenties somehow the same but only different. Again, we have only seen one, but even on the one based on it, I'm kind of like, who cares about the friends? I mean also like the point of moving on, you don't stay close with your high.
Paige Blaser (20:09)
The show has lost its Zeitgeisty Edge. Euphoria has become a series with very little to say. None of it is audacious or compelling. Based on three episodes of eight that HBO made available in advance, it is a strained attempt to make the closed circle of friends it follows now in their early twenties somehow the same but only different. Again, we have only seen one, but even on the one based on it, I'm kinda like, who cares about the friends?
I also. You don't stay close with your high
Alex (20:38)
school friends but we're still following these characters but like who gives a fuck if they're not hanging out and it's not the same? Like no shit, isn't that real life? Yeah. I guess I also appreciate that it's departed from being like very zeitgeisty because I feel like you can't you it's like a flash in the pan thing. If you like make something that's so like kind of like revelatory or influential like season one
Paige Blaser (20:38)
school friends, but we're still following these characters, but like who gives a fuck if they're not hanging out and it's not the same? Like, no shit, isn't that real life? Yeah. I guess I also appreciate that it's departed from being like very zeitgeisty, 'cause I feel like you can't you it's like a flash in the pan thing. If you like make something that's so like kind of like revelatory or influential like season one
Alex (21:02)
The more you like chase that, you're just gonna fail because you're never gonna like be able to replicate that, cause something like that is kind of naturalistic. Sure. And I like that season two didn't try to like chase that. And I think season three also is not, and is probably going even further away from it. Which I think is smart, because it's like if you just keep trying to be like this like sexy, edgy, like teen drug show, it's gonna just start to feel like, you know, kind of like a retread, and it's you're never gonna be as like cool or edgy or hot as you were in season.
Paige Blaser (21:02)
The more you like chase that, you're just gonna fail because you're never gonna like be able to replicate that, cause something like that is kind of naturalistic. Sure. And I like that season two didn't try to like chase that. And I think season three also is not, and is probably going even further away from it. Which I think is smart, because it's like if you just keep trying to be like this like sexy, edgy, like teen drug show, it's gonna just start to feel like, you know, kind of like a retread, and it's you're never gonna be as like cool or edgy or hot as you were in season.
Season one when it really was like the new thing. Like you're always gonna have to top yourself to remain relevant or interesting if you're pursuing just being like zeyke icy. So like who cares about that? I think the point is to like make a good show that's like cool and interesting and exactly. Who gives a fuck about how ze-cy it is? I thought that was silly. I just didn't again. I think these are all kind of the cut. This was just funny. It says, Do we really need all the putt play on Euphoria?
Alex (21:33)
was like the new thing. Like you're always gonna to top yourself to remain relevant or interesting. If you're pursuing just being like zeisty. So like who cares about that? I think the point is to like make a good show that's like cool and interesting and exactly. Who gives a fuck about how zeke it is? I thought that was silly. I just didn't Yeah again I think these are all kind of the cut. This was just funny. It says do we really need all the pup play on Euphoria?
I think yeah
Paige Blaser (22:02)
I think yeah. I love it. It's real. There really is like a girl that's like a dog like I know. A hoey like dog like influencer and like Sydney Sweeney, her or Cassie would absolutely try to replicate something dumb like that to chase fit. That's g also like we don't kink shame around here. No, yeah.
Alex (22:03)
⁓ I love it. It's real. There really is like a girl that's like a dog like a hoey like dog like influencer and like Sydney Sweeney or or Cassie would absolutely try to replicate something dumb like that to chase fame. Also, like we don't kink sham around. I'm surprised by that. No, yeah. There's
Paige Blaser (22:23)
There's not a lot of young Spry men that like the pup play. Puppy girls, yeah, sure. Put play. Sure. I think that's a different thing, but that's right.
Alex (22:23)
gotta be a lot of young Spry men that like the putt play. The puppy girls, yeah, sure. Put play. Sure. I think that's a different thing, but that's all right.
Okay, okay, fine. You know what I was surprised? The Times actually gave it like the best review and I feel like I thought they were gonna be kinda out of touch since we're always like the Times isn't the best anymore, like they don't do the best job of reporting. No. But they said this is euphoria with a much wider canvas.
Paige Blaser (22:33)
Okay, okay, fine. You know what I'm surprised? The Times actually gave it like the best review and I feel like I thought they were gonna be kinda out of touch since we're always like the Times isn't the best anymore. Like they don't do the best job of reporting. No. But they said this is Euphoria with a much wider canvas.
Alex (22:47)
Before it was a slicky, stylish Instagram friendly tale of various teenagers from a middle class suburb in Los Angeles doing irresponsible things. Now they're in their twenties and the terrifying expanse of adult life symbolized by the dusty desert lies ahead.
Paige Blaser (22:47)
Before it was a slicky, stylish, Instagram friendly tale of various teenagers from a middle class suburb in Los Angeles doing irresponsible things. Now they are in their twenties and the terrifying expanse of adult life symbolized by the dusty desert lies ahead. But while
Alex (23:03)
The stage is set for more heartbreak and danger. You also sense that the show has grown up along with its ensemble. The first episode, I would say that's that tracks for me.
Paige Blaser (23:03)
the stage is set for more heartbreak and danger, you also sense that the show has grown up along with its ensemble. From the first episode, I would say that's that tracks for me.
Alex (23:14)
Sure. That's like the sentiment that I carried out of the pilot, but agree. But yeah, I don't need to go more down the rabbit hole, but there's so many more, and I will be honest so far, like the critics are being very harsh. Like the Times was the nicest one I saw that made the most sense with how we felt watching it. Which by the way, I should state.
Paige Blaser (23:14)
That's like the sentiment that I carried out of the pilot, but Agree. But yeah, I don't need to go more down the rabbit hole, but there's so many more, and I will be honest so far, like the critics are being very harsh. Like the Times was the nicest one I saw that made the most sense with how we felt watching it. Which by the way, I should state,
Alex (23:33)
We we purposely did not talk about this episode at all. So this is the first time Alex and I are talking about it, which I'm a chatterbox. You all know.
Paige Blaser (23:33)
we we purposely did not talk about this episode at all. So this is the first time Alex and I are talking about it, which I'm a chatterbox, you all know.
Alex (23:43)
It's been very difficult. But I will say it's been even harder for you, weirdly. You've been like wanting to talk to me about it over and over. I'm like, shit, no. I know, because now I'm a big fan. I know. Season two made me such a big fan, which I guess I should say right now. We just ⁓ rewatched. We just rewatched season two right before this. And you know, I know I was very
Paige Blaser (23:43)
It's been very difficult. But I will say it's been even harder for you, weirdly. You've been like wanting to talk to me about it over and over. I'm like, Shit, no. I know.
I Rewatch. We just rewatched season two right before this. And you know, I know I was very
Alex (24:02)
positive about season two when we reviewed last, but rewatching it, episode seven and episode eight are two of I think some of the best episodes of TV ever. And I came away from episode eight like, holy shit, what a fucking amazing episode. So I guess all I'm saying is like I knew I was positive about it, but I don't even know
Paige Blaser (24:02)
positive about season two when we reviewed last, but rewatching it, episode seven and episode eight are two of I think some of the best episodes of T V ever. I agree. And I came away from episode eight like, holy shit, what a fucking amazing episode. So I guess all I'm saying is like I knew I was positive about it, but I don't even
know if I was adequately like sure pro season two. I really think it's a very ⁓ very very very good high quality
Alex (24:23)
if I was adequately like pro season two. I really think it's a very ⁓ very, very, very good high quality
impressive emotional piece of work. I agree. Top twenty. And I feel like top fifteen. Top ten maybe. It's crazy. It's incredibly strong. I mean it's just so
Paige Blaser (24:33)
impressive emotional piece of work the ⁓ you know I think I consider season two one of the best like seasons of TV ever. It's I agree. Top twenty. You're not the only one a lot of people say that. Top fifteen. Top ten maybe it's crazy. Yeah. It's incredibly strong. I mean it's just so
Alex (24:50)
beautiful. Like everything. Yeah. I don't know if I praised it enough, I guess is what I'm saying. You probably it really is excellent. So you probably did it and I did.
Paige Blaser (24:50)
Beautiful, like everything. But I can go on and on You probably don't really as I do it. So You probably didn't and I did.
But you know. You're out of the times. No, no, no. But so we haven't really talked much, so this is going to be like very
Alex (25:00)
But you're out of the times. That's all. No, no, no.
So we haven't really talked much, so this is going to be like very
a genuine raw reaction to this episode between Alex and I, because I was like, before we would talk about it a lot, and then we'd get on here and felt like we were almost like reenacting what we had already talked about. So now I'm like glad that we're doing this. It's all organic, baby. Yeah, let's go. So authentic. We're so on that. Because you're telling my truth. I'm speaking my truth. Alice and I have been like joking about how much we've just fucking hate like
Paige Blaser (25:08)
a genuine raw reaction to this episode between Alex and I because I was like before we would talk about it a lot and then we'd get on here and felt like we were almost like reenacting what we had already talked about. So now I'm like glad that we're doing this. Because it'll be funny. Baby. Yeah. Let's go. So authentic. We're authentic. Just here telling my truth. Speaking my truth. Alex and I have been like joking about how much we've just fucking hate like
lately the therapy talk mixed in with like anything like
Alex (25:34)
The therapy talk mixed in with like anything like
podcasting influencing, it's just annoying. Like just in general. Just shut up. Like authenticity. If I hear that word one more time. ⁓ no, accountability. That's the really bad one. Alex, you need to take accountability. Taking accountability doesn't mean just saying I'm taking accountability. You actually have to like do something. You actually have to act. You have to change. You know who could Cindy Swinney can maybe take a loss on there. But, anyways, we decided we would have got on.
Paige Blaser (25:38)
Podcasting influencing, it's just annoying, like just in general. Just shut up. Like authenticity, if I hear that word one more time. no, accountability. That's bad one. Alex, you need to take accountability. Taking accountability doesn't mean just saying I'm taking accountability. You actually have to like do something. You actually have to act. You have to change. You know who can Cindy Sweeney can maybe take lesson there. But anyways, we said we wouldn't go
down that path. Anywho.
Alex (26:04)
That path. Anyway,
Paige Blaser (26:05)
But I already lost my train of thought. What was I even talking
Alex (26:06)
but I already lost my train of thought. What was I even talking about?
Paige Blaser (26:10)
about before I said any of that? ⁓ like season two. But we did w rewatch season two. We did, yeah. And yes, all the reviews have been very negative. I disagree from episode one and I feel like we gotta dive in because I actually I wanna hear just like first impression from you. Like
Alex (26:11)
I think that's it. I think we were just prefacing that we haven't talked about this yet, and it's on. And yes, all the reviews have been very negative. I disagree from episode one, and I feel like we gotta dive in because I actually I want to hear just like first impression from you. Like,
give like a if you had to give a headline like what I just read to you, what would be your like snippet? I'm putting you on the spot, but like and it doesn't have to be perfect, but what would what should
Paige Blaser (26:32)
Give like a if you had to give a headline like what I just read to you, what would be your like snippet? I'm putting you on the spot, but like it doesn't have to be perfect, but what would what's
a what was your first impression of the episode? I can go first if you want. I mean, I loved it. Like I thought it was excellent. ⁓ in terms of like s you know. Like if you were writing like a jaunty headline, like something silly, like I don't know. I'd have to think about it. I I guess you'll I'll put it in this a little later, but it's going in a very particular
Alex (26:41)
What was your first impression of the episode? I can go first if you're I I loved it, like I thought it was excellent. ⁓ in terms of like you know, like if you were writing like a having some headline, like something silly, like I don't know, I'd have to think about it. I mean, I guess you'll I'll hear I'll talk about this a little later, but it's going in a very particular direction
Paige Blaser (27:01)
direction that I ⁓ I think it's mirroring a specific like subgenre of film that
Alex (27:02)
that I ⁓ I think it's mirroring a specific like subgenre of film that I
Paige Blaser (27:08)
I really like. But I'll talk about that a little later. But I don't know, I'm so I think it's just looks to be like ⁓ the same great T V making in a new direction. ⁓ stories going in a new direction, but the quality and the artistry is still there. Yeah, I I was going to say I think
Alex (27:08)
But I'll talk about that a little later. But
Soaked. I think it's just looks to be like the same great TV making in a new direction. ⁓ stories going in a new direction, but the quality and the artistry is still there. Yeah, I I was going to say, I think
if I'm thinking of like all of Euphoria, the first episode to me is similar to the first episode of season one, the first episode of season two. Like it was very captivating.
Paige Blaser (27:32)
If I'm thinking of like all of Euphoria, the first episode to me is similar to the first episode of season one. The first episode of season two. Like it was very captivating,
Alex (27:42)
Very elevated. ⁓ I'm laughing that you said like TV making because I always almost say filmmaking. No, I almost say filmmaking because I do elevate it. It's a stupid thing to say. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying I I think it's interesting because I my brain always thinks of Euphoria as a film,
Paige Blaser (27:43)
very elevated. ⁓ I'm laughing that you said like T V making, 'cause I always almost say filmmaking. No, I almost say filmmaking because I do elevate it. That's a stupid thing to say. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying I I think it's interesting 'cause I my brain always thinks of euphoria as a film.
Alex (28:01)
and to me that speaks to like how well it's done. Wow. Because it's like movie, it is like making a movie. It's it's beautifully shot, it's just a lot more elevated. Like some of the TV out there right now, I'm just like, ⁓ I they pretty.
Paige Blaser (28:01)
And to me that speaks to like how well it's done. Wow. Because it's like movie it is like making a movie. It's it's beautifully shot. It's just a lot more elevated. Like some of the TV out there right I'm just like I mean they pretty
Alex (28:12)
Much it's clo probably closer to filmmaking. Like any of these, like super it depends on the one. But some of the more like, you know, really
Paige Blaser (28:12)
much are it's clo probably closer to filmmaking. Like any of these like super ⁓ it depends on the one. But some of the more like, you know, really
Alex (28:22)
interesting or avant-garde, like limited series of our time, I think, are closer to movies. Yeah. Like we were just talking about ⁓ Too Old to Die Young. Every episode of that show is like 90 minutes to like two hours. So yeah, you are just making movies, and I think Euphoria is similar in the
Paige Blaser (28:22)
interesting or avant garde like limited series of our time I think are closer to movies. Yeah. Like we were just talking about ⁓ Too Old to Die Young. Every episode of that show is like ⁓ ninety minutes to like two hours. So yeah, you are just making movies and I think Euphoria is similar in
that, you know, it's like who gives a fuck how long the episode is? The the lengths vary and they all kind of are like mini movies. Plus they're like now well last season too, but they're shooting on film. You know it
Alex (28:40)
You it's like who gives a fuck how long the episode is? The the lengths vary and they all kind of are like mini movies. Plus they're like now well last season too, but they're shooting on film. You know, it's
Paige Blaser (28:52)
It's probably closer to making a long movie than it is to making what we would consider like T V. Sure. But that was just my first like takeaways. I just feel like it's always becoming more and more elevated somehow. And it blows my mind. But What were you telling
Alex (28:52)
probably closer to making a long movie than it is to making what we would consider like TV. Sure. But that was just my first like takeaways. I just feel like it's always becoming more and more elevated somehow. It blows my mind. But what were you telling me about?
Paige Blaser (29:10)
me about the film they used in this season? I think they're just releasing what they've been using.
Alex (29:10)
The film they used in this season when they it like developed like a brand new like Kodak. Like I think they're just releasing what they custom Kodak film or something. Yeah,
Paige Blaser (29:19)
Yeah, I could look up the type, but it's essentially though, I think it is what they use in season two as well. I think they just weren't like showcasing it or like allowing it to be got it sold to the public. I'm not positive. But I think Marcel, who's so good at all of this and does all the cinemat cinematography, I think it's the same
Alex (29:19)
I could look up the type, but it's essentially though, I think it is what they use in season two as well. I think they just weren't like showcasing it or like allowing it to be got it sold to the public. I'm not positive, but I think Marcella, who's so good at all of this and does a list of cinemat cinematography, I think it's the same as.
Paige Blaser (29:40)
that they use in season two, if I'm not mistaken. But I
Alex (29:40)
That they use in season two, if I'm not mistaken, but I
would definitely have to do a double check on that. Well, it looks good. It looks so good. I mean, that's the first thing I always think is the the visuals are just like insane. But the episode opens with Rue and she's boy, is she on her journey. She's on her drug mule journey. She is on her journey. Yup. She's crossing the border. Also, can I get some more cooks? Of course. Again.
Paige Blaser (29:43)
Would definitely have to do a double check on that. Well, it looks good. It looks so good. I mean that's the first thing I always think is the the visuals are just like insane. But the episode opens with Rue and she's boy, is she on her journey. She's on her drug mule journey. She is on her journey. Yup. She's crossing the I need to get on my notes. Also, can I get some more cooks? Of course. I again.
I don't want yours to spell. Mine's empty.
Alex (30:08)
Where's the spell? Mine's empty.
Hold your hands. I'll do yours first. You forehands, you know us. There's no professionalism involved in this. Just kidding. We are very professional. This is such a professional setup. Look at this. Alright, give me your ass.
Paige Blaser (30:11)
Here, yeah, let me I'll do yours first. You foreens, you know us. There's no professionalism involved in this. Nothing's changed. Just kidding. We are this is very professional. Look at this. Look at this. Influencer. Strike cut. Alright, three mirrors. God, you barely pour any.
But yes, so Rue is definitely she is
Alex (30:34)
But yes, so Rue is definitely she is
I'll be honest, like I'm loving it. I feel like it makes so much sense. It's I I think I okay.
Paige Blaser (30:39)
I'll be honest, like I'm loving it. I feel like it makes so much sense. It's I I think I okay.
Alex (30:49)
I'm gonna get out my notes before I dive in too deep. But one of my notes I literally wrote, controversial take, but I kinda think Rue is a really good drug meal. Like I know we were joking, but like she's kinda bad, but I'm like,
Paige Blaser (30:49)
I'm gonna get out my notes before I dive in too deep, but one of my notes I literally wrote controversial take, but I kinda think Rue is a really good drunk meal. Like I know we were joking that like she's kinda bad, but I'm like
Alex (31:05)
no, give me a second. Alright. She's to me giving like charisma of like someone who fakes it till they make it. Like the way she like it's later in the show, but like when she talks to Alamo and like has this conversation, she's very charming.
Paige Blaser (31:05)
No, give me a second. Alright. She's to me giving like charisma of like someone who fakes it till they make it. Like the way she like it's later in the show, but like when she talks to Alamo and like has this conversation. She's very charming,
Alex (31:19)
I guess is what I mean. Like, I could see it either going really south, but sometimes I'm like, you're kinda like I get it. I get why people like want to keep you around and are like cool with you for a while. Like the suitcase lady, I can never remember her. Lori. Lori.
Paige Blaser (31:19)
I guess, is what I mean. Like I could see it either going really south, but sometimes I'm like, you're kinda like I get it. I get why people like wanna keep you around and are like cool with you for a while. Like the suitcase lady, I can never remember her name. Lori.
I'm I don't know. I just get this sense that she's likable. Like I think people almost like like her, you know? They're like, okay, like I guess that's not a she's not a good drug mule, but she's a likable drug that's a better way to say it. She's a likable drug mule. Like you don't want to kill
Alex (31:35)
I don't know. I just get this sense that she's likable. Like I think people almost like her, you know? They're like, okay, like, I guess that's not a she's not a good drug mule, but she's a likable drug. That's a better way to say it. She's a likable drug mule. She has certain qualities.
That beneficial. Like, I agree, she is charismatic, and she also ⁓ doesn't really crack under pressure. She's because she doesn't really give a fuck if she lives or dies. So that gives her a little edge in that she doesn't crack as much or worry as much as other people might.
Paige Blaser (31:50)
her. Like I agree she is charismatic. And she also ⁓ doesn't really crack under pressure. She's because she doesn't really give a fuck if she lives or dies. So that gives her a little edge in that she doesn't crack as much or worry as much as other people may
light,
Alex (32:06)
But because she doesn't care if she lives or dies, she consistently makes the worst choices in the world, which makes her a very bad drug mule, also. So it's a mixed bag. I saw like ⁓ someone online said it's loony.
Paige Blaser (32:06)
but because she doesn't care if she lives or dies, she consistently makes the worst choices in the world, which makes her a very bad drug meal also. So it's a mixed bag. I saw like ⁓ someone online said it's Looney Tunes meets break breaking bad. That's like that's not like the worst comparison in with Rue, like just being kinda like
Alex (32:19)
Tunes meets breaking breaking bad. That's like that's not like the worst comparison in with Rue, like just being kind of like a
tall balloon. But yeah, there's always some cartoonishness. I was gonna ask those. So again, we've only seen the episode once. So I've seen it twice now. yeah, you've seen the film? Okay. Well, I didn't have time to die. ⁓ what's the deal when she's on the farm with the family? Is that just like she did a job and then needed somewhere to stay and like ask?
Paige Blaser (32:27)
A total loon. But Yeah, there's always some cartoonishness. I was gonna ask those. So again, we've only seen the episode once, so I've seen it twice now. yeah, you've seen it. okay. Well I didn't have time today. ⁓ what's the deal when she's on the farm with the family, is that just like she did a job and then needed somewhere to stay and like asked
Alex (32:49)
To stay with them. Well, she had to leave her she loses her car in the border crossing.
Paige Blaser (32:49)
to stay with them? I was like, Well she has to lose her if she loses her car in the border crossing.
Alex (32:55)
So then she's forced to walk through the desert, and that's just the first place where she finds to sleep, and then the kid like finds her there in the morning. Okay. Just wanted to make sure I like understanding the And offers her the milk from Dar Dahlia. Shout out to Shout out Dahlia the cow. Dahlia?
Paige Blaser (32:55)
So then she's forced to walk through the desert and that's finds the house where she finds to sleep and then the kid like finds her there in the morning. Okay. Just wanted to make sure I like understood from ⁓
Dar Dahlia. Shout out. Shout out Dahlia the cow. The d Dahlia
or the cow? Dahlia. Dahlia's the cow. So many animals. So many animals this season. Also and I were cracking up a lot of animals this season. At first I started wondering if there was
Alex (33:16)
So many animals. So many animals.
this season. Although we're cracking up. A lot of animals this season. At first I started wondering if there was,
you know, greater symbolism about the animals and what they represented, because some of the first ones are birds and snakes, which are very obvious. ⁓ you know, symbols, birds probably being freedom. Like right off the bat, you get the hawk that's free on the border. And then shortly after you get all the caged birds at Lori's, which is very symbolic of Rue's, you know, shackled to Lori's
Paige Blaser (33:27)
you know, greater symbolism about the animals and what they represented because some of the first ones are birds and snakes, which are very obvious. Mm-hmm. ⁓ you know, symbols, birds probably being freedom, like right off the bat you get the hawk that's free on the border. And then shortly after you get all the caged birds at Lori's, which is very symbolic of Rue's, you know, shackled to look at
You would pick that up, I I don't snakes are like the classic like temptation, like
Alex (33:52)
And then snakes are like the classic like temptation. But then I was like, you know, that could all be bullshit because right after that we get rats, dogs, pigs, chickens, poodle. You know, there's like a lot there's a lot of fucking animals in the Cassie the puppy. Yeah. A lot of animals. That butt. ⁓ so there's a lot of animals, so maybe that's all bullshit. But I was surprised.
Paige Blaser (33:57)
And I was like, you know, that could all be bullshit 'cause right after that we get rats, dogs, pigs, poodles, mm poodle, you know Yeah, we got it off. There's a lot of fucking
Cassie the puppy. Yeah. Lotta animals. That dog. ⁓ so there's a lot of animals, so maybe that's all bullshit. But I was surprised
Alex (34:20)
how many animals are in this episode. Love it. Bird for you. Bird for your baby. I really wanted to identify all of the birds that Lori has, but it's hard. I if anybody is a ⁓ if anyone's an ornithologist, a what? An ornithologist?
Paige Blaser (34:20)
how many animals were in this episode. Love it. Bird for That's what Alex ⁓ is coining this season. I if anybody is a anyone's an ornithologist, what? An ornithologist. ⁓
What the hell is that? It's a bird scientist. Well, I could have guessed that, I guess. I feel like it should be called a birdologist. Why is it an ornoologist? Ornithologist. Ornithologist. I think there's a hornbill in there. There's a cockatoo. There's something that's maybe like a loricy, but I didn't really know the rest. And even those I'm like. Yeah, and you're good with birds. But
Alex (34:41)
It's a bird scientist. Someone that specializes in birds. If anyone knows what every species of bird that Lori has is, get at us. I think one should be called a bird. I think there's a why is it an ornologist? Ornithologist.
I think there's a hornbill in there, there's a cockatoo, there's something that's maybe like a Laura Keat, but I didn't really know the rest. And even those I'm like Yeah, and you're good with birds. But
Ruse the so the the stunt with the car was crazy. That was pretty cool. That was funny. A little unnecessary though. I was like, what are we doing? Why what is this? Like, is this a norm for her? And she just sucks at it 'cause she just leaves the car. I'm like, okay, actually I already take a I mean it's not her fault. It's just a hacky, like it's a hacky solution and it doesn't on that particular
Paige Blaser (35:07)
Ruse the so the the stunt with the car was crazy. That was pretty cool. That was funny. A little unnecessary though. I was like, what are we doing? Why what is this? Like, is this a norm for her? And she just sucks at it 'cause she just leaves the car. I'm like, Okay, actually I already take my thought back. It's just a hacky like
It's a hacky solution and it doesn't on that particular
Alex (35:26)
model of car it just doesn't work it doesn't have the clearance to get over the fence with the bridge laurie's fault then she should have it was a bad it was a bad setup yeah you know so not really Rue's fault so then it reconfirms Rue's
Paige Blaser (35:26)
model of car, it just doesn't work. It doesn't have the clearance to get over the fence with Well that's Lori's fault then. She should know her shipping. So then it reconfirms Rue's
Alex (35:40)
a decent drug mill it was Lori's fault I was wondering though who set up the who set up the ramps on the other side of the fence because they show the guy right away on his motorcycle on his like dirt bike Josh did the cop master I guess the guy on the dirt bike wasn't the one that set up the ramp and
Paige Blaser (35:40)
a decent drug mill. It was Lori's fault. I was wondering though, who set up the who set up the ramps on the other side of the fence? Because they show the guy right away on his motorcycle on his like Josh did the prop master. I guess the guy on the dirt bike set up the ramp
Alex (35:56)
In
Paige Blaser (35:56)
in the first place anyways, because he couldn't carry out those on a dirt bike. So I guess they must have had somebody come on each side in a truck and set it up. But that was pretty funny. It was a great way to like open the
Alex (35:56)
the first place, anyways, because he couldn't carry out those on a dirt bike. So I guess they must have had somebody come on each side in a truck and set it up. But that was pretty funny. It was a great way to like open the you know, to get a view and I'll suspend my ⁓ you know, I'll suspend my disbelief for that. It's a funny scene. Yeah, that is funny the grant the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Yeah. I don't know about you, but I rode in a lot of that a lot of those cars in the nineties. No, not me. yeah. That was a classic. Yeah. No, not me at all.
Paige Blaser (36:07)
You know, to get a view into Rue's new life. I you know, I'll suspend my disbelief for that. It's a funny scene. Yeah, it is funny. The Grand the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Yeah. And the music and she's like I don't know about you, but I wrote in a lot of that a lot of those cars in the nineties. No, not me. ⁓ yeah. Really? Classic. Yeah. No, not me, not at
all. I need to look at my notes. Multiple people from my elementary school at that car. I put Yeah, I I mean that whole scene's fun and then
Alex (36:26)
Need look at my notes. Multiple people from my elementary school at Lacor. I put yeah, I I mean that whole scene's fun and then
again, just like the progression of kinda getting a view into where Rue's at right now is fucking crazy. Like the her gagging down those I I put okay, if my notes you're gonna laugh. I put I put those onions, 'cause it looks like onions to me. I was like onions, but they're really just the drug balls.
Paige Blaser (36:35)
Again, just like the progression of kinda getting a view into where Rue's at right now is fucking crazy. Like the her gagging down those I I put okay, in my notes you're gonna laugh. I put I put those onions 'cause it looks like onions to me. I was like Ru's gagging on those onions, but they're really just the drug balls. I
Alex (36:56)
I have to pause it and ask Alex what the hell was going on because I'm Miss Naive, like was raised warm and like don't
Paige Blaser (36:56)
had to pause it and ask Alex what the hell was going on because I'm Miss Naive, like was raised warmen, like don't
Alex (37:04)
this is not my territory. I mean, I've watched a lot of shows about drugs, but that was not something that I just like understood. I was like, what what's happening? That's fucking crazy. Snarly. That's ⁓ so people really do this? Like Yeah, totally. And you were saying you could like die. Like, they say that on the show. They show that girl die. ⁓
Paige Blaser (37:04)
This is not my territory. I mean I've watched a lot of shows about drugs, but that was not something that I just like understood. I was like, What what's happening? That's fucking crazy. Snarly. That's do so people really do this? Like Yeah, totally. And you were saying you could like die, like girl die. yeah, you're
right, you're right. Because if one of them bursts, you get you overdose, like
Alex (37:26)
Because if one of them bursts, you get you overdose, like
immediately? Like your body's quickly, very quickly. Your stomach absorbing like a kilogram of fentanyl or whatever, like you're gonna die all like instantly pretty much. That's why they drop it in the water first to make sure it's not leaking, which is not sufficient to guarantee it won't burst in your stomach, but Well, then my other note was farting fee.
Paige Blaser (37:30)
Immediately? Like your body is just quickly, very quickly. Your stomach absorbing like a kilogram of fentanyl or whatever, like you're gonna die like instantly pretty much. And her and Faye are just down, like they they don't even That's why they drop it in the water first to make sure it's not leaking, which is not sufficient to say that it won't burst in your stomach, but Well, then my other note was farting Fay
Alex (37:56)
Farting Faye. I like I will be honest, I was kinda like, okay, do you think that really happens? A and B like, do we need to hear Faye farting? Like I I'm I'm not really big on like farting on shows. I'm like I don't care about like bathroom humor. Like I don't think it's funny. Well, there's plenty of that in this season. I was laughing because within I think like about thirty seconds you get ⁓
Paige Blaser (37:57)
I was like I will be honest, I was kinda like, okay, do you think that really happens? A and B like, do we need to hear Faye farting? Like I I'm I'm not really big on like farting on shows. I'm like I don't care about like bathroom humor. Like I don't think it's funny. Well there's plenty of that in this season. I was laughing because within I think like about thirty seconds you get ⁓
Alex (38:20)
You get a dog pissing on a car, and then right after that there's a dog licking diarrhea on Faye's leg. And I was
Paige Blaser (38:20)
you get a dog pissing on a car and then right after that there's a dog like getting diarrhea in his leg and I
That's the No Youth? Well it's crazy. Thirty in thirty seconds of show you get both. Watching the beautiful scenes of euphoria. It was interesting that ⁓ they revealed Faye's last name as Valentine, which is a reference to Cowboy Bebop.
Alex (38:27)
like, Wow, that's Well, it's crazy. Thirty in thirty seconds of show, you get both dogs. Watching the beautiful season. Two dogs doing disgusting things. I was like, Wow, they went there. It was interesting that ⁓ they revealed Faye's last name as Faye Valentine, which is a reference to Cowboy Bebop.
Paige Blaser (38:47)
Which I did not know that. Which is not she's one of the I should know, but I didn't the main thing I didn't know that's thing. Cowboy Bebop is Faye Valentine, and that's like probably the most famous anime ever.
Alex (38:47)
Which I did not know that. Which is not she's one of the main. One of the main characters of Cowboy Bebop is Faye Valentine and that's like probably the most famous anime ever.
You know, it's up there. I mean I know what it is. Which isn't surprising 'cause I think there've been other there've been plenty of other deeper cut anime references, but it seemed like probably an easy win for them to like, Yeah, our last name's Valentine. Well her character in general kinda gives anime like chick, in my opinion. Like she wears fun. At least the style, I guess. Yeah, yeah, like her style and like her personality a little bit.
Paige Blaser (38:57)
Up there. I mean I know what it is. It isn't surprising because I think there've been other there have been plenty of other deeper cut anime references, but it seemed like probably an easy win for them to like, yeah, or the same style and well and her character in general kind of gives anime like chick, in my opinion. Like she wears fun, like the style, I guess. Yeah, yeah, like her style and like her personality a little bit.
Alex (39:19)
But that's funny, but yeah, Farting Fey. That's her new name for this season. Yeah, we Jeweling Janice and now Farting Faye. Farting Faye. Like I I'm not
Paige Blaser (39:19)
But that's funny. But yeah, Farting Fey, that's her new name for this season. Yeah, we jeweling Janice. I'm sorry, Farting Faye. Farting Faye. Like I'm not
Alex (39:27)
gonna forget it. She's just ripping it and they're like no. Do we think Jeweling Janice, aka B B is gonna make an appearance in this season? I wanna know the I wanna know the fucking betting odds on that. I hope, and I'm loving that on Twitter I noticed a lot of people were like praying that she comes back and so we're not like the only ones. I hope so much. I know. I feel like she'll bring such
Paige Blaser (39:27)
Gonna forget it. She's just ripping it and they're like no. Do we think Julian Janice, aka B B B, is gonna make an appearance in this season? ⁓ I hope, and I'm loving that on Twitter I noticed a lot of people were like praying that she comes back, and so we're not like the only ones. I hope so much. I know. I feel like she'll bring such
a good energy. I hope she's at the wedding at least. She could be a good drug mule. I could see it. She'd be swallowing those onions like nothing.
Alex (39:49)
Bring her back, baby. I hope she's at the wedding at least. She could be a good drug mule. I could see it. She'd be swallowing those onions like nothing. Nah, she'd get in a fight. Right away. Alright. She wouldn't all she could help Cassie with her putt play. Like I could definitely see her being a good hype woman on the other side of the camera. Couldn't you? Yeah, maybe ⁓ maybe once Maddie starts like managing Cassie, she'll bring her in.
Paige Blaser (39:57)
She'd get enough. She'd be farting, jewelin. She Alright. She could help Cassie with her putt play. Like, I could definitely see her being a good hype woman on the other side of the camera. Couldn't you? Yeah, maybe ⁓ maybe once Maddie starts like managing. She'll pull her in. yeah,
I could see that. ⁓ huh. I wouldn't be surprised. I'll actually predict that. Because I ha I did tell you I I heard a rumor that she wasn't it, but I'm not sure. But
Alex (40:16)
See that. I wouldn't be surprised. I'll actually predict that. Because I I did tell you I I heard a rumor that she wasn't it, but I'm not sure. But
okay, let me look at my notes again. I sure hope so. We both took notes. I guess I'll take this time to shout out that they consistently I find it really interesting that Rue is like basically a crackhead, but she always has at least quasi interesting fashion. It's always like most of her outfit is just like trash, but then she has like a really cool shirt or jacket or something, and they've definitely
Paige Blaser (40:25)
Okay, let me look at my notes again. You have notes too. We both took notes. ⁓ I guess I'll take this time to shout out that they consistently I find it really interesting that Rue is like basically a crackhead, but she always has at least quasi interesting fashion. Mm-hmm. It's always like most of her outfit is just like trash, but then she has like a really cool shirt or jacket or something. And they've
definitely carried that on. She has a really good Hawaiian shirt and that really cool patchwork jacket. Yep. But she's also still rocking the Converse, the same black Converse from all the
Alex (40:46)
Carry that on. She has a really good Hawaiian shirt and that really cool patchwork jacket. But she's also still rocking the Converse, the same black Converse from all the other
Paige Blaser (40:55)
Yeah, she's fun. So I think it's interesting that they keep her like as someone that for whatever reason always has at least some kind of swag even though she's usually dying and like. I asked you this mid-episode.
Alex (40:55)
seasons. Yeah, she's fine. So I think it's interesting that they keep her like as someone that for whatever reason always has at least some degree of taste, even though she's usually dying and like overdosing or something. ⁓
Do we think she's sober? Like, I can't tell. No, I don't think Not sober, sorry, not sober. Because she does drink and like smoke, but like
Paige Blaser (41:13)
do we think she's sober? Like I can't tell. No, I don't think She does drink and like smoke, but like
Alex (41:20)
meaning in this episode. I don't think so. She does both drink and smoke. Yeah. But do you think she's doing like hard? I'm guessing no, because of the Well, I don't know. She is meeting with Ollie. She also says she's mostly been doing she says she's mostly been doing bad things since high school, which is what made me think she was. But the bad things are drug mule. Other than that, smoking weed. She is pretty much sober.
Paige Blaser (41:20)
Meaning in this episode I think so. She does both drink and smoke. Yeah. But do you think she's doing like hard I'm guessing no because of the well, I don't know. She is meeting with Ollie. She also fine when she met her. She says she's mostly been doing bad things since high school, which is what made me think she was. But the bad things are being a drug mule. Other than that's her job. Smoking weed, she is pretty much sober
Alex (41:43)
The whole episode and she is still meeting with Ali, so
Paige Blaser (41:43)
the whole episode and she is still meeting with Ollie, so
Alex (41:46)
it doesn't seem like she's really off the rails, I guess. So maybe she is still like hard drugs sober. I think so. I mean when she was with Ali, she definitely so seemed fine. She seemed sober the whole episode, which would make sense if you were having to like cross the border and stuff. Not that she's really smart enough to do that, but maybe she is smart enough to do that now.
Paige Blaser (41:46)
It doesn't seem like she's really off the rails, I guess. So maybe she is still like hard drugs sober. I think so. I mean when she was with Ollie, she definitely some seemed fine. She seemed sober the whole episode. Which would make sense if you were having to like cross the border and stuff. Not that she's really smart enough to do that. Maybe she is smart enough to do that now.
I don't know. Huh. Well also, ⁓ you know what? I just remember, 'cause we just rewatched season two. She does say at the end of season two, remember like the very last
Alex (42:04)
Huh. Well also, ⁓ you know what? I just remembered 'cause we just rewatched season two. She does say at the end of season two, remember like the very last
Paige Blaser (42:14)
Yeah. Seen as her saying she's like I'm sober. Yeah, clean. So, okay. Or clean. That's a better word, 'cause that's more like drug related. I'm clean. Yeah.
Alex (42:15)
season she's like I'm sober. So okay. Or clean, that's a better word, 'cause that's more like drug related. I'm clean. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm gonna guess yes. I don't think she's on the hard stuff right now. It doesn't seem like I don't mind Drew, like if you gotta be a drug mule. Drew. I don't mind I meant to say I don't mind if Rue and it came up Drew. Our girl Drew.
Paige Blaser (42:25)
Yeah. I'm gonna guess yes. I don't think she's on the hard side. I hope so. It doesn't seem like I don't mind Drew, like if you try to be a drug mu I don't want say Drew. Drew. I don't mind I meant to say I don't mind if Rue and it came out Drew. Our girl Drew. I don't
Alex (42:42)
I don't mind if Rue is smoking weed. I think she's like I know that's probably bad though. I should not wish that upon her. She's an addict. She's California sober. Yeah. She just seems fun when she's smoking weed.
Paige Blaser (42:42)
I don't mind if Rue is smoking weed. I think she's like I know that's probably bad though. I should not wish that upon her. She's an addict. She probably should be any. Yeah. She just seems fun when she's smoking weed. But
Alex (42:58)
Well, okay. So what else? ⁓ What other notes do you have for me? And her their their little talk,
Paige Blaser (42:58)
well, okay. So what else? What other notes do you have for me? And her, their their little talk. Mm hmm.
Alex (43:09)
I wanna I definitely know you have takes on this 'cause I wrote down obviously best quote for me of the night was War Ain't Time for Butt Sex. Did you have that note or no? ⁓ yeah, it was great. He's like ⁓ he's like, I don't know nothing about butt sex, but I know war ain't time for butt sex or something. I did think it was interesting that they were like discussing
Paige Blaser (43:09)
I wanna I definitely know you have takes on this 'cause I wrote down obviously best quote for me of the night was War ate in time for butt sex. Did you have that note or no? ⁓ yeah, that was great. He's like ⁓ he's like, I don't know nothing about butt sex, but I know war ain't time for buttons. But I did think it was interesting that they were like discussing
Alex (43:28)
The Bible.
Paige Blaser (43:28)
the Bible.
Alex (43:29)
I also took a note of I do think it makes sense that Rue is like intrigued by religion. And here's why. I mean. I've told Alex this though a lot. Like, there's you can do your own research, but obviously, like, again, I've talked about this on the podcast. I was raised Mormon. And it is very normal for a lot of people to see a family raised in a religion and think of it as.
Paige Blaser (43:29)
I also I took a note of I do think it makes sense that Rue is like intrigued by religion. And here's why. I mean I've told Alex this though a lot. Like there's you can do your own research, but obviously like again, I've talked about this on the podcast. I was raised Mormon. And it is very normal for a lot of people to see a family raised in a religion and
Think of it as
Alex (43:57)
this
Paige Blaser (43:58)
this
Alex (43:58)
like perfect
Paige Blaser (43:58)
like perfect, enticing, warm. It's like a fuzzy blanket. Like you want to be a part of it. Cause you're like, wow, like what am I missing? Because they seem great. Obviously, like we know it's all bullshit because you know how I was raised. And a lot of that is just like for show. It's not always the reality, if you will. But I totally understand why she's like intrigued. And I do think that will play a bigger part. I think it's not as like comical as
Alex (44:00)
enticing, warm. It's like a fuzzy blanket. Like you want to be a part of it. Cause you're like, wow, like what am I missing? Because they seem great. Obviously, like we know it's all bullshit because you know how I was raised and a lot of that is just like for show. It's not always the reality, if you will, but I totally understand why she's like intrigued. And I do think that will play a bigger part. I think it's not as like comical as
people might think it is. I think they are gonna my
Paige Blaser (44:28)
people might think it is. I think they are gonna my
Alex (44:30)
Prediction is like down the line, they are gonna like delve into that a little more. Rue, my during all that I was like,
Paige Blaser (44:30)
prediction is like down the line they are gonna like delve into that a little more. Rue my during all that I was like, ⁓
Alex (44:39)
With the religious stuff. I was like Rue is a prime candidate to be like a cult victim. Like for sure. A prime candidate for religious reasons. Don't have to be Mormonism. Don't have to No, I don't think that's gonna happen. But was that family like kind of like a Mormon y stand in? I mean they weren't really like I think the point was like it was kind of Amish polygamy. They kind of Amish, like Mormon esque. Like they definitely all had the long sleeves and stuff. They were kind of Amish Mormon esque. It wasn't giving like
Paige Blaser (44:39)
With the religious stuff. I like Rue is a prime candidate to be like a cult victim. Like a prime candidate for religious truth. Don't have it be Mormonism. Don't have it. No, I think that's gonna happen. Don't but was that family like kind of like a Mormon y stand in? I mean they weren't really like I think the point was like it was giving like polygamy or something. They were kind of Amish like Mormon esque. Like they definitely all had the long sleeves and stuff. They were kind of Amish Mormon esque.
It wasn't giving like modern
Alex (45:09)
Modern day Mormon it wasn't like secret wives of Mormon wives vibes. It was giving like Secret Wives of Mormon wives. Secret wives. I guess that is very polygamous. The Mormon wives do have secret wives if they're practicing modern Mormon polygamy. Now the wives get secret wives too.
Paige Blaser (45:09)
day Mor it wasn't like secret wives of Mormon wives vibes. It was giving like Secret Wives of Mormon wives Secret Wives that is very polite wives lives. The Mormon wives do have secret wives if they're practicing modern Mormon. Now the wives get secret wives too.
Alex (45:27)
Jesus. Equality, baby. But that title's too hard for me to figure out. You know what I mean though. They're not giving like modern day Mormons for sure. I think it was more just like
Paige Blaser (45:27)
Equality, baby. That that title's too hard for me to figure out. You know what I mean though. They're not giving like modern day Mormons, but sure. I think it was more just like
Amish. Yeah, I mean farm people. I guess Sam's saying too that like the twelve step program was a big inspiration for this season. It's gotta play a role because that's
Alex (45:36)
Yeah, I mean like I guess Sam's saying too that like the twelve step program was a big inspiration for this season. It's gotta play a role because that's
Paige Blaser (45:47)
a big I think it's a big sticking point for a lot of people with AA. You know, it does it is explicitly religious and it's like, you know, Judeo Christian religious. Like it's monotheistic and there's a God and he's good and like there's this greater power and you have to like give yourself over to it and have faith. That's all like very like implicitly part of AA. I did not I did not know this is a big problem for a lot of people that get into it because if you're not religious you have to like be saying
Alex (45:47)
A big I think it's a big sticking point for a lot of people with AA. You know, it does it is explicitly religious and it's like, you know, Judeo-Christian religious. Like it's monotheistic and there's a God and he's good, and like there's this greater power, and you have to like give yourself over to it and have faith. That's all like very like implicitly part of AA. And I have heard that that's a big problem for a lot of people that get into it, because if you're not religious, you have to like be saying
Paige Blaser (46:17)
accepting these things and you're kind of forced to either like become religious or like proceed with the program but know that you're kind of bullshitting like some of it which isn't great if you're trying to like be about this kind of like sure you know be really invested in it it's not amazing if you I don't think I knew that is there any other like a program where that's not the case or is it all there's alternative programs but classic like alcoholics anonymous is religious to have like religious like I don't think I knew and that's I mean that's what they're all talking about. That's like they're on like steps
Alex (46:17)
accepting these things and you're kind of forced to either like become religious or like proceed with the program but know that you're kind of bullshitting like some of it which isn't great if you're trying to like be about this kind of like sure you know be really invested in it it's not amazing if you have to like bullshit. Is there any other like a program where that's not the case or is it all there's alternative programs but classic like Alcoholics Anonymous does have like religious like foundation. And that's I mean that's what they're all talking about. It's like they're on like steps
Paige Blaser (46:47)
three
Alex (46:47)
three and he's like you have to accept that like you know there is like a higher power and God is good and like you know you have faith and stuff and I think there's other steps where that comes into play as well but it's you know definitely part of it and I think that does turn off a lot of people. it would turn me off around there are you know alternative programs but reasonably so I think Rue is like challenging it and
Paige Blaser (46:47)
and he's like you have to accept that like yeah no I know you know there is like a higher power and God is good and like you know you have faith and stuff and I think there's other steps where that comes into play as well but it's you know definitely part of it and I think that does turn off a lot of people it would turn me off right away alternative programs but reasonably so I think Rue is like challenging it and I fuck with Rue's viewpoint on this like I don't really unless you're just like I'm spiritual I don't
Alex (47:10)
I fuck with Rue's viewpoint on this. Like I don't really unless you're just like I'm spiritual, I don't
Paige Blaser (47:17)
Really fuck with people that are like, I'm
Alex (47:17)
really fuck with people that are like I
Paige Blaser (47:20)
religious but like I only I just kinda like pick and choose my religious beliefs. Maybe I don't fuck with them is the wrong word. I don't really agree with that approach to religion. I feel like if you're gonna accept that religion is real and believe it, then why are you gotta go all you gotta fucking believe it. Like you don't really get to just pick and choose the parts. Isn't that kind of what Coleman said though? Unless he's kind of like sorry very Protestant about it. He's like, you know, you just have to have faith and like this was a long time ago and like there's all this in the that context and it's like well no
Alex (47:20)
religious, but like I only I just kinda like pick and choose my religious beliefs. Maybe I don't fuck with them is the wrong word. I don't really agree with that approach to religion. I feel like if you're gonna accept that religion is real and believe it, then why are you then you gotta fucking believe it. Like you don't really get to just pick and choose the parts you like. Unless he's kind of like so he's kind of being he's being very Protestant about it. He's like, you know, you just have to have faith and like this was a long time ago and like there's all this in the that context and it's like well not
Paige Blaser (47:50)
Not
Alex (47:50)
Not really. Like it's kinda says what it says and then I'm like Lexi. Like if you're if you're Christian, I can't be friends with a Christian. You're not judgmental. There's a very long discussion to be had about this, but I kind of vibe more with people that are very like strictly religious that are like, I believe this is like what I'm supposed to do and I follow it to the T as opposed to people that kinda pick and choose what parts of it they like. so I'm kind of on Rue's side of that. I think it's valid to question the
Paige Blaser (47:50)
really. Like it's kinda says what it says and then I'm like Lexi, where I'm like, if you're if you're Christian, I can't be friends with the Christian. You're gonna be judgmental. It was a very long discussion to be had about this, but I kind of vibe more with people that are very like strictly religious that are like, I believe this is like what I'm supposed to do and I live throw it to the T as opposed to people that kinda pick and choose what parts of it they like. so I'm kind of on Rue's side of that and I think it's valid to question the
the nature of this you know. I don't think you can just write everything off as being like historical context. in this context it meant this and that. It's like, well, now it's leading to a lot of people like believing that and doing horrible things in the name of this religion. So if you just kinda like give it that pass, I don't think you're really being very rigorous about how you move through the world. No. I also think sometimes it's easy to
Alex (48:18)
the nature of this, you know. And I don't think you can just write everything off as being like historical context. in this context it meant this and that. It's like, well, now it's leading to a lot of people like believing that and doing horrible things in the name of this religion. So if you just kinda like give it that pass, I don't think you're really being very rigorous about how you move through
I also think sometimes it's easy to
Paige Blaser (48:44)
Again, like desire religion though almost as like a cop out. Like I think I've told you this before. I sometimes it's very rare, but like I always joke with Alex, like if I'm like anxious on an airplane and I like feel like it's gonna go down, I'll like literally like I don't even realize I'm doing it, I'll like say a prayer 'cause I'm like, that's just what I was taught my entire life to do and in crisis. But like I'm not religious whatsoever anymore.
Alex (48:44)
Again, like desire religion though almost as like a cop out. Like I think I've told you this before. I sometimes it's very rare, but like I always joke with Alex, like if I'm like anxious on an airplane and I like feel like it's gonna go down, I'll like literally like I don't even realize I'm doing it, I'll like say a prayer 'cause I'm like that's just what I was taught my entire life to do and in crisis. But like I'm not religious whatsoever anymore. So I feel like
Paige Blaser (49:09)
So I feel like
it's kind of like a good comparison of like this is like the ditch effort. It's like, okay, like
Alex (49:10)
It's kind of like a good comparison of like this is like the ditch effort. It's like, okay, like
I'm just grasping for straws here. Like it's like me on the airplane. I'm just grasping. I'm like, God, I swear I'll believe in you if you're like, let me live on this. And understandably so that does work for a lot of people. There are a lot of people that get sober and stay off drugs through religion. And you know, good for them. Like you gotta do it when your life's online, you gotta do what you gotta do to stay alive. Like, so I don't really fault people for that, but that is a thing that is you know, it's very real. And like it seems like that's the case for
Paige Blaser (49:15)
I'm just grasping for straws here. Like it's like me on the airplane. I'm just grasping and I'm like, God, I swear I'll believe in you if you like let me live on this plane. There are a lot of people that get sober and stay off drugs through religion. I mean, you know, good for them. Like, I'm not really just that empathy, like I get it. You gotta do what you gotta do to stay alive. Like, so I don't really fault people for that. But that is a thing that p is you know, it's very real and like it seems like that's the case for
Alex (49:40)
Raleigh very much. Like he seems to have really bought into that and it seems to have really worked for him. So
Paige Blaser (49:40)
Ali very much. Like he seems to have really bought And it's worked for him. It seems to have really worked for him, so
Alex (49:45)
we'll see. You know. See where Rue goes with it. Yeah, that's interesting what you said about Lexi. I made a note. I was half kidding. Like, obviously, I have friends that are Christians, like that wasn't serious, but I I thought that was funny and like snarky of her to say. It is, but I did make a note about that because I think there were there was a line there was that line from her and a line from Cassie, and I think both those lines show that they both have.
Paige Blaser (49:45)
So we'll see. We'll see where Rue goes with it. Yeah, that's interesting what you said about Lexi. I made a note I was half kidding. Like, obviously I have friends that are Christians. Like that wasn't serious, but I I thought that was funny and like snarky of her to say. It is, but I did make a note about that because I think
There were there was a line there was that line from her and a line from Cassie and I think both those lines show that they both have Wait, which
line from Cassie? she says everyone it's like the line when she's talking about the marriage. Or she's talking about doing OnlyFans potentially and like talking about how men like want like the message from her in the morning and she says, I think like everyone wants to feel everyone wants to feel loved or special. It says she said people just wanna feel special. Okay. ⁓ and I think that line from her and that line about the Christians from
Alex (50:10)
Line from Cassie. she says everyone, it's like the line when she's talking about the marriage. Or she's talking about doing OnlyFans potentially and like talking about how men like want like the message from her in the morning. And she says, I think like everyone wants to feel special. It says, she said, people just want to feel special. Okay. and I think that line from her and that line about the Christians from
Lexi.
Paige Blaser (50:33)
Lexi
show that they're both kind of still living in like fantasy world and they're both still like very naive. I don't think either of them have really moved on or
Alex (50:35)
show that they're both kind of still living in like fantasy world and they're both still like very naive. I don't think either of them have really moved on.
Paige Blaser (50:43)
Dealing with like real life because they're both still ⁓ saying things like that that are very hypocritical given their situations. Like Lexi's literally judging Christians as she's saying, Christians like judge people, and Cassie's saying, like, people just want to feel special about these like hypothetical men, as she's like putting on a wedding where she's demanding fifty thousand dollar flowers because she just wants to feel special. So both of them are like really lacking self-awareness, I think, and are kind of living in like their own.
Alex (50:43)
Dealing with like real life because they're both still ⁓ saying things like that that are very hypocritical given their situations. Like Lexi's literally judging Christians as she's saying, Christians like judge people, and Cassie's saying, like, people just want to feel special about these like hypothetical men, as she's like putting on a wedding where she's demanding fifty thousand dollar flowers because she just wants to feel special. So both of them are like really lacking self-awareness, I think, and are kind of living in like their own.
Paige Blaser (51:13)
fantasy worlds. Lexi's trying to make it in Hollywood and it still still seems very like sold on like the Hollywood dream and the glamour. I also think like not with I didn't want to interrupt you, but I do think that also ties since we just rewatched season two. I think all too much we forget how much trauma they both went through, like losing their dad the way they did. So I think a lot of that, you you've put it perfectly, is kind of living in that fantasy because they haven't fully maybe
Alex (51:13)
fantasy worlds Lexi's trying to make it in Hollywood and it still still seems very like sold on like the Hollywood dream and the glam of it. I also think like not with I didn't want to interrupt you but I do think that also ties since we just re-watched season two I think all too much we forget how much trauma they both went through like losing their dad the way they did. So I think a lot of that you you put it perfectly is kind of living in that fantasy because they haven't fully maybe
faced it.
Paige Blaser (51:43)
faced it. I
Alex (51:43)
I think Lexi was starting to, but it's hard. Like when you lose a dad who you didn't have in your life, and they were always seeking validation, didn't quite get it. Like he was back and forth. It's wishy washy. So I think they've had to like find their own path to navigate that. So I I like that you bring this up because I didn't really connect those dots, but you're right. They're both very much like kind of still
Paige Blaser (51:43)
think Lexi was starting to. But it's hard. Like when you lose a dad who you didn't have in your life and they were always seeking validation, didn't quite get it. Like he was back and forth. It's wishy washy. So I think they've had to like find their own Yeah. Path to navigate that. So I I like that you bring this up 'cause I didn't really connect those dots, but you're right. They're both very much like kind of still
Alex (52:07)
like Lexi's still kind of living in play. She's still living in like the play. Like she's still kind of not.
Paige Blaser (52:08)
Like Lexi's still kind of living in play. She's still living in like the play. Like she's still
Alex (52:13)
them to like Rue and Maddie. Like not saying they're doing better materially, but they're both probably much more self-aware people. I think Rue is like, I'm a piece of shit. I've been doing bad things since high school ended. Like I think she's probably more incisively self-reflective. Like I think she has like a more accurate view of herself and like what's going on in her life than maybe
Paige Blaser (52:13)
kind of Rue and Maddie. Like not saying they're doing better materially, but they're both probably much more self-aware people. I think Rue is like, I'm a piece of shit. I've been doing bad things since high school ended. Like I think she's probably more incisive self-reflective. Like I think she has like a more accurate view of herself and like what's going on in her life than maybe.
Alex (52:36)
like I mean Cassie's obviously completely fucking delusional. Yeah. ⁓ and it seems like Lexi's very like soul
Paige Blaser (52:37)
I mean Cassie's obviously completely recognitional. Yeah. ⁓ and it seems like Lexi's very like sold
on like Hollywoodland, which is as we all know. There's a lot of clues in this episode even. Like that it's shady. ⁓ I thought it was really interesting that when they show like
Alex (52:43)
on like Hollywoodland, which is as we all know I mean there's a lot of clues in this episode even, like, that it's shady. ⁓ I thought it was really interesting that when they show like ⁓
Paige Blaser (52:55)
her boss, Sharon Stone's office. They make a point to have her
Alex (52:55)
her boss, Sharon Stone's office, they make a point to have her
Paige Blaser (52:59)
she has a picture on her desk with the Obamas and with Bill Gates. And I was like, Mm, that's I did not really shot. That's a really good way to show that she's like dirty. Like a pedophile and a war criminal. It's like, you know, but they're the type of like, you know, elite that are
Alex (52:59)
She has a picture on her desk with the Obamas and with Bill Gates. And I was like, Mm, that's a really that's a really good way to show that she's like dirty, like a pedophile and a war criminal. It's like, you know, but they're the type of like, you know, elite that are
kind of beloved by like
Paige Blaser (53:16)
kind of beloved by like
people that love like California, like Democrats, like you know, people that like to think that they're like progressive or, you know, whatever. But really they're just as easy. On the bandwagon. Everybody else. Like so I thought that was an interesting way to show like that she's very shady right off the bat. Hmm, interesting. I did not catch that photo. I think those were very particular choices. Those are like, you know, prime examples of what like a Hollywood
Alex (53:18)
people that love like California like Democrats. Like, you know, people that like to think that they're like progressive or, you know, whatever, but really they're just as evil as everybody else. Like so I thought that was an interesting way to show like that she's very shady right off the bat. Hmm, interesting. I did not catch that. I think those were very particular choices. Those are like, you know, prime examples of what like a Hollywood
Democrat would consider to be like cool, good people and really they're evil like fucks.
Paige Blaser (53:41)
Democrat would consider to be like cool, good shit. Ugh,
Alex (53:48)
Hollywood
Paige Blaser (53:48)
and Hollywood in itself, I I feel like I just wanna like grab Lexi out of that 'cause I'm like, I get it. Like I I would understand. I mean I am happy for her 'cause I've I've been in her position where you get really excited about being in the world of film and you you paint this picture, right? Like she just came out of like putting on this great play, you get amped on the creativity behind it. You get excited and then
Alex (53:48)
in itself, I I feel like I just wanna like grab Lexi out of that 'cause I'm like I get it. Like I I would understand. I mean I am happy for her 'cause I've I've been in her position where you get really excited about being in the world of film and you you paint this picture, right? Like she just came out of like putting on this great play, you get amped on the creativity behind it, you get excited and then you learn really, really fast that that's not what it's like all the time. Like you're really lucky if you get to Hollywood
Paige Blaser (54:11)
You learn really, really fast that that's not what it's like all the time. Like you're really lucky if you get to Hollywood and
Alex (54:17)
And you land a project that's like awesome, like safe, like everything lines up. Like that is a s such a rare, rare case. I do think it's getting a little better, but like I've I don't know if this is gonna be a good path for her. I don't see it like living out through the season. I think she'll have some moments where she'll
Paige Blaser (54:18)
you land a project that's like awesome, like safe. Like everything lines up. Like that is a s such a rare, rare case. I do think it's getting a little better, but like I've I don't know if this is gonna be a good path for her. I don't see it like living out through the season. I think she'll have some moments where she'll
Alex (54:39)
like okay, like when the what's his name, Dylan, the celeb when sh they were like jokingly, like he she got respect from him that day, and he was like, Thanks, Lisa. Yeah.
Paige Blaser (54:39)
Like okay, like when the what's his name? Dylan, the celeb when sh they were like jokingly, like he she got respect from that day and he was like, Thanks, Lisa.
And he like doesn't even get her name right. I'm like, Yeah, Ben there. Like it's it's just not great. It's not a great world for her. I would like to see her get out of that. But on a lighter note, I kinda like I took a note, I was like, I love Lexi's pad. She's got a cool apartment. She has a very cool apart. A pool. Like I'm proud of her. Like she's got a great she has that really cool I wanted to call it the sweet charity.
Alex (54:47)
I'm like, yeah, Ben there. Like it's just not great. It's not a great world for her. I would like to see her get out of that. But on a lighter note, I kind of like I took a note, I was like, I love Lexi's pad. She's got a cool apartment. Yeah, she has a very cool apartment. Like, I'm proud of her. Like, she's got a great, she has that really cool, I wanted to call it the Sweet Charity
framed poster. Just because like I like that they're still keeping her character very like interesting. Do you know what the what Sweet Charity is about? I don't. Yeah, I mean.
Paige Blaser (55:09)
framed poster just because like I like that they're still keeping her character very like intimate. Do you know what that what Sweet Charity is about? I don't know. Yeah. I mean
Alex (55:17)
⁓ I don't need to it's a long like Does it have any relevance to like it's very showy, it's very like it's a very well renowned like piece of work. It's very like Holly old Hollywood.
Paige Blaser (55:17)
it's it's a very I don't need to it's a long, like Does it have any relevance to like It's very showy. It's very like it's a very well renowned like piece of work. It's very like Holly old Hollywood font. So I think it's giving like Lexi's like play air dream of the Hollywood Yeah, yes. It's very much Hollywood glamour. So
Alex (55:30)
So I think it's giving like Lexi's like play her. Her dream of the Hollywood glamour. Yeah, yes. It's very much Hollywood glamour. So
Yeah. That was funny too how Sharon Stone's character kept talking about the election. I was like, ⁓ she's the ex like and how important the show is for like the voters in the election and stuff. She's like the perfect, like, so the the Democrats can do the genocide instead, like type, you know. It's like so self important and we're like changing the world with like, you know, this stuff and it's such fun. Well the show called
Paige Blaser (55:37)
Yeah. That was funny too how Sharon Stone's character kept talking about the election. I was like, ⁓ and the She's the snapping. She's the like and how important the show is for like the voters in the election and stuff. She's like the perfect, like, so the the Democrats can do the genocide instead, like type, you know. It's like so self important. We're like changing the world with like, you know, this stuff and it's such a with a show called
what was it? The mighty Well, let's talk about it. The show is called LA Night.
Alex (56:00)
What was it? The mighty Well let's talk about it. The show is called LA Nights.
Paige Blaser (56:05)
No no no. it is. It is. Sorry, I'm getting it confused. I'm getting it confused with the the premiere was the I may or I
Alex (56:06)
It is. And we know a little something about that. I'm getting it confused with the the premiere was the I May Arrive.
Paige Blaser (56:14)
might or something with that dumb thing. If I may, if I might, that's it. Sorry, I was getting it confused. No, you're talking about the one that Lexi's working on. Yeah, yeah. So we have a funny story about this. So Alex and I were at a total like dive bar and out in Brooklyn and
Alex (56:14)
something if that doesn't or something. Yeah, that's the premiere that the actor goes to. No, you're talking about Lexi's working on LA Nights, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we have a funny story about this. So Alex and I were at a total like dive bar and out in Brooklyn and
Paige Blaser (56:33)
We won't reveal the source, but we like overheard or someone we're here, someone overheard us talking about euphoria and came to talk to us. Someone that was on the crew. And they told us that LA Knights was like the code for euph the Euphoria C.
Alex (56:33)
We won't reveal the source, but we like overheard We didn't overhear someone overheard us talking about Euphoria and came to talk to us. Someone that was on the crew. And they told us that LA Knights was like the code for euph the Euphoria. The code like filming title,
Paige Blaser (56:52)
Yeah. Put up the signs and go film places and they get to use a fake name. They were using LA Knights. So we were like to us at the time, but now seeing the episode, I'm like, ⁓
Alex (56:52)
like when they put up the signs and go film places and they get to use a fake name, they were using LA Knights. So Which didn't mean anything to us at the time, but now seeing the episode I'm like, ⁓
Paige Blaser (57:02)
that's the fake show in the show. Yeah, that's fun. So we already knew that for a while, but shout out to that person that we won't reveal. Thanks for letting us know on that little Dell yeah. So yeah, that's kinda Lexi. Did you have anything else to talk about Lexi? I feel like that was kinda it. That's all we got from her, really. I just wrote like jokingly, I really liked her apartment. I was like
Alex (57:03)
That's the fake show in the show. Yeah, that's fun. So I was kinda so we already knew that for a while, but shout out to that person that we won't reveal. Thanks for letting us know on that little Dell yeah. So yeah, that's good on Lexi. Did you have anything else to talk about? Lexi, I feel like that was kind of it. That's all we got from her, really. I just wrote like jokingly, I really liked her apartment. I was like,
Paige Blaser (57:22)
I like that she's like thriving though. Like maybe not in Hollywood, but she's got the spot. She's cool art books I noticed. She's doing her thing. Glad she got away from like her family. Meanwhile,
Alex (57:22)
I like that she's like thriving though. Like maybe not in Hollywood, but she's got the spot. She had some cool art books I noticed. She's doing it. She had a Tarkovsky book. Glad she got away from like her family. Meanwhile.
Mm-hmm.
Paige Blaser (57:34)
her sister, on the other hand. Yeah. Cassie, because they they literally transitioned from Lexi and her, like, Cassie's living like her suburb life, and I'm like, first of all, this ain't suburb. Pop play and like all this weirdness. It is now. The first thing I will say
Alex (57:34)
Her sister, on the other hand. Yeah. Cassie, 'cause they they literally transitioned from Lexi and are like Cassie's living like her suburb life. And I'm like, first of all, this ain't suburb. Pot play and like all this weirdness. It is now. The first thing I will say, 'cause
Paige Blaser (57:52)
'Cause you me, I always we're the same. We both always, I feel like, immediately are like looking at interior decor like we're looking at all like the everything involved with the show because we love all the looks and the and I will
Alex (57:53)
you know me, I always we're the same. We both always I feel like immediately are like looking at interior decor like we're looking at all like the everything involved with the show 'cause we love all the looks and that's and I
Will say I we have not talked about this at all. I'm curious your take on their house because I was like, this musky grandma decorated, like I you're I knew I was like, I don't
Paige Blaser (58:04)
say, I we have not talked about this at all. I'm curious your take on their house. Cause I was like, this musky grandma decorated, like I ⁓ you're I knew I was like, I don't
Alex (58:20)
okay, so the house itself, incredible, like the pool, but the the decor, the carpet, it looks I I wonder if it's on purpose. It almost looks like it's like half it's like almost there.
Paige Blaser (58:20)
Okay, so the house itself, incredible. Like the pool but the the decor, the carpet, it looks I I wonder if it's on purpose. It almost looks like it's like half it's like almost there. Like
it's like half finished. Like I was really noticing the details. Like when they opened the door, you could see the door like dragging on the carpet and it was like kinda like painted all janky. Like it just didn't look great.
Alex (58:34)
It's like half finished. Like I was really noticing the details. Like when they opened the door, you could see the door like dragging on the carpet and it was like kind of like painted all janky. Like it just didn't look great.
And then if when she's talking about like I want to chip in, she's like, Nothing's done, like believing or something. Yeah, she wants to redo it all. Yeah, and I'm kinda like, Well, yeah, like it is like weird. It's like, why are they decorating? Like they're eight. I think it's amazing women. It looks like Liberace's house in the best way. ⁓
Paige Blaser (58:46)
And then if when she's talking about like, I wanna chip in, she's like, Nothing's done, like the living room, the en suite. Yeah, and I'm kinda like, Well yeah, like it is like weird. It's like why are they decorating like they're eighty year old women? It looks like Liberace's house in the best way.
I knew you were gonna have an opposing take. I was like, it looks must be shocked to see those two living there. I thought for sure they'd be living in some board all gray. Remember Nate's room? I thought they would be living in like a
Alex (59:03)
I knew you were gonna have an opposing tank. I was fucking shocked to see those two living there. I thought for sure they'd be living in some boring ass all gray. Remember Nate's room? I thought they would be living in like a g
Paige Blaser (59:16)
All grey and like white marble, like bland ass, like you know, suburbs box. Remember his room? We'd always joke it looked like a killer's room. It was like so serious. I imagined like the most, you know, normy
Alex (59:16)
all grey and like white marble, like bland ass, like you know, suburbs box. Remember his room? We'd always joke it looked like a killer's room. It was like so. I imagined like the most, you know, normy
Paige Blaser (59:28)
gray suburb house for them. So I was surprised that they were living somewhere so flamboyant.
Alex (59:28)
gray suburb house for them. So I was surprised that they were living somewhere so flamboyant. ⁓
Paige Blaser (59:34)
But yeah, I mean it's it's interesting, but it's definitely interesting. I have a lot of things I wanted to talk about. I like it, but I couldn't see either of them like No. I wrote Cassie's w way too outdated for her and Nada's
Alex (59:34)
yeah. I mean it's it's interesting. But it's It's totally interesting. I have a lot of things I wanted to talk about. I like it, but I couldn't see either of them like No. I really Cassie is w way too outdated for her and Nada's
Paige Blaser (59:48)
the most like stripped down blank taste. So there's just I just can't picture either of them decorating it. I'm like, did it come like this? And then you just moved in 'cause I guess like what Cassie was curating that or Nate?
Alex (59:49)
Like strip down bland taste. So there's just I just can't picture either of them decorating it. I'm like, did it come like this? And then you just moved in because I guess they must have just curating that or Nate.
No, it's crazy. It's really bad. But ⁓ I was gonna say I I'm curious to see what you think. I I feel like in season two, Nate felt consistent in that Cassie was
Paige Blaser (1:00:02)
It's really bad. But ⁓ I was gonna say I I'm curious to see what you think. I I feel like in season two, Nate felt consistent in that.
Cassie was
no different from Maddie, meaning I don't f I I never got this like vibe that he treated her any differently. I was always like, damn, he's just as much of a dick, just as much of controlling, like kinda scary. In this, I I feel like he's very docile and almost like playful and a little more chill.
Alex (1:00:19)
No different from Maddie, meaning I don't f I've I never got this like vibe that he treated her any differently. I was always like, damn, he's just as much of a dick, just as much of controlling, like kinda scary. In this, I I feel like he's very docile and almost like playful and a little more chill.
So I'm wondering, is that because you think like his dad? Well, we haven't really heard much about like where Cal's at yet, but is that because he like confronted his dad and maybe it took a big like
Paige Blaser (1:00:38)
So I'm wondering, is that because you think like his dad well, we haven't really heard much about like where Cal's at yet, but is that because he like confronted his dad and maybe it took a big like
burden off of him and now he's just like, you know, like doing his thing? I don't know, but he feels so like nice to Cassie. Like I'm like I have no idea. Maddie, she would say one thing and he was like, He seems very different. ⁓ and I was really surprised that he was like going along.
Alex (1:00:49)
Burden off of him and now he's just like, you know, like doing his thing. I don't know, but he feels so like nice to Cassie. Like I'm like I have no idea. Maddie, she would say one thing, and he was like, He seems very different. and I was really surprised that he was like going along
with everything that she keeps saying. Like originally he's like, nah, but like the fact that she like threatened him and was like, maybe it's not the time for us to get married, and he like
Paige Blaser (1:01:07)
With everything. With the wedding. Like originally he's like, nah, but like the fact that she like threatened him and was like, maybe it's not the time for us to get married. And he like
backed down because of the That's what I'm saying. He like docile. He seemed nice. Old high school day would have been like, well, then maybe it's not the right time to get married. And would have walked out. Yeah. So I was surprised to see that too. You know what I'm surprised? That is what happened, but he does seem very different, I agree. Well, I was gonna say
Alex (1:01:17)
back down because of that. Old high school day would have been like, Well then maybe it's not the right time to get married. Like fuck you. Like So I was surprised to see that too. You know what I'm surprised who knows what happened, but he does seem very different, I agree.
Well, I was gonna say,
could it be that he l like actually like I know that's like a crazy serious thing to say for Nate, but I'm like, does he really like love her? Cause he was I don't think so. Or But who knows? Time will tell. I also I was gonna ask you this. Does it seem like he has a completely different accent or manner of speaking as Nate in this season? Like when he was talking, I was like, This doesn't sound like Nate. So it's where'd you say that? The accent seems a little off.
Paige Blaser (1:01:33)
Could it be that he l like actually like I know that's like a crazy serious thing to say for Nate, but I'm like, does he really like love her? 'Cause he was I don't think so. Or But who knows, time will tell.
I also was gonna ask you this. Does it seem like he has a completely different accent or manner of speaking as Nate in this season? Like when he was talking, I was like, This doesn't sound like Nate. So it's weird you say that. So I think cadence
Alex (1:02:01)
The cadence or something? Something seems off. I did not pick up on that, but you're not alone.
Paige Blaser (1:02:02)
or something? Something seems off. I did not pick up on that. But you're not alone. I know you're never on social media, but everyone was joking, like Elvis never lost his voice. Like they were joking that he sounded like
Alex (1:02:08)
social media, but everyone was joking like Elvis never lost his voice. Like they were joking that he sounded
Paige Blaser (1:02:14)
Like
Alex (1:02:14)
like Elvis. Yeah. And I was like, maybe maybe I don't know that's what he was in in the interim. That was really good. I thought he was great in that. But anyways, ⁓ I you were not the only one. Did you see that online at all before you No, but that makes sense. I thought that when I watched the episode the first time and I thought it again when I watched the episode the second time. And he doesn't sound like Nate anymore. To be fair, four years you're a man
Paige Blaser (1:02:14)
Elvis. Yeah. And I was like, maybe, maybe I don't know. No, that's what he was in in the intergram. That was really good. I thought he was great in that. But anyways, ⁓ I you were not the only one. Did you see that online at all before you thought of that? That makes sense. I thought that when I watched the episode the first time, and I thought it again when I watched the episode the second time. And again it doesn't sound like Nate anymore. To be fair, four years, you're a man like he was really young when it started.
Alex (1:02:38)
Like he was really young when it started.
It could be a It's a minor note. But it was kind of weird. I was like, is the accent different? I couldn't really tell what it was, but he sounds different. I also feel like we should give it some more time. Like maybe he is just maybe this is the point of his arc. Like maybe he is like a carefree dude now, doesn't give a fuck, and is like not as close. I don't know if he's carefree, but yeah. Maybe he's like chilled out. Like, yeah, he wasn't mad about when she was like talking about doing OnlyFans.
Paige Blaser (1:02:41)
It could literally even just be like But it was kinda weird. I was like, is the accent different? I couldn't really tell what it was, but he sounds different. I also feel like we should give it some more time. Like maybe he is just maybe this is the point of his arc. Like maybe he is like a carefree dude now, doesn't give a fuck, and is like not as h cold or carefree, but yeah. Well, I meant carefree in that like yeah, he wasn't mad about when she was like talking about doing OnlyFans for
Alex (1:03:08)
Flowers, I was like
Paige Blaser (1:03:08)
Flowers, I like
Alex (1:03:09)
gripping the seat, like he's gonna be pissed. And he was very different. He was just like, Okay, honey. She like took out her tits and he was like, Mm, all right.
Paige Blaser (1:03:09)
gripping the seat like he's gonna be pissed. And he was just like very different. He was just like, Okay, honey, she like took out her tits and he was like, Hmm, all right.
As long as your face isn't in it And I'm like, What? Like if that was Maddie, he would have like reached across the table and slapped her like Well he would have done that with Cassie too in season two, but
Alex (1:03:17)
As long as your face isn't in it. And I'm like, What? Like if that was Maddie, he would have like reached across the table and slapped her. Like Well he would've done that with Cassie too in season two, but
doesn't seem like that anymore. Well also Maddie stood her ground more, so I think that pissed him off more where Cassie's very like, I'll do whatever you say. But now she's not, but she's not. She's like, No, I wanna do this and he's like so s he's like bowing to her now. Yeah, but I think she's okay, well that that actually leads me to my next point. I'm actually
Paige Blaser (1:03:27)
Sure, sure. Well also Maddie stood her ground more, so I think that pissed him off more where Cassie's very like, I'll do whatever you say. She'll she's the dog. But she's not. She's like, no, I want to do this. And he's like, so so he's like bowing to her now. Yeah, but I think she's okay. Well that that actually leads me to my next point. I'm actually
surprised
Alex (1:03:48)
surprised people are hating like her arc and are mad and are
Paige Blaser (1:03:49)
people are hating like her arc and are mad and are I knew they were gonna blow it out of proportion, meaning people are not excited about it. They're like
Alex (1:03:53)
I knew they were gonna blow it out of proportion, meaning people are not excited about it. They're like
she's being so degraded as a character, like blah blah blah. I'll be honest, I think this is kind of a like duh, Cassie's doing OnlyFans. Like, come on. We we saw her in season two. This is the only like step that makes sense to me in terms of like what's really going on in the modern world and what Cassie, the fictional character, would do. So this I seem pretty reasonable. Season one, she was sending like
Paige Blaser (1:03:57)
⁓ she's being so degraded as a character, like blah blah blah. I'll be honest, I think this is kind of a like duh, Cassie's doing OnlyFans. Like, come on. We we saw her in season two. This is the only like s step that makes sense to me in terms of like what's really going on in the modern world and what Cassie, the fictional character, would do. So this I have no idea. Season one, she was sending like
Nudes to algae or ⁓ what's his name in the ship? McKay. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I I just think it makes sense. I don't think it's that weird. I don't think Like, so what's shocking about OnlyFans doesn't mean you're a bad person. No, of course not. But I mean like she's just like ⁓ she's not doing OnlyFans out of some like sex positive attitude. She's doing OnlyFans for attention. Wedding florals. It's for attention. Like she's like, you know.
Alex (1:04:24)
nudes to algae or ⁓ what's his name in the show? McKay? Yeah. Like, I don't know. I I just think it makes sense. I don't think it's that weird I don't Well season two also revealed her to be pretty much a bad person. Like, so what's shocking about Only fans doesn't mean you're a bad person. No, of course not, but I mean like she's just like ⁓ she's not doing OnlyFans out of some like sex positive attitude. She's doing OnlyFans for attention. It's for attention. Like she's like, you know
Paige Blaser (1:04:52)
obsessed. She's completely like egotistical. Self-obsessed. Yeah. Like, yeah, she's a giant narcissist. She needs like constant validation and attention. Sure. She needs this like spectacular wedding. Like, you know, if she if she was doing this 'cause she was like
Alex (1:04:52)
Obsessed, she's completely like egotistical self-obsessed. Like, yeah, she's a giant narcissist. She needs like constant validation and attention. Sure. She needs this like spectacular wedding. Like, you know, if she if she was doing this because she was like,
This is me, like this is a great way for me to make money. Sure. But it's all about the spectacle of the wedding and her validation. Like, you know, it's just like I was laughing when she said I'm I don't I want the flowers from my family and friends. I'm thinking what
Paige Blaser (1:05:08)
This is me, like this is a great way for me to make money, sure. But it's all about the spectacle of the wedding and Well, I was laughing when she said like, you know, it's just like I was laughing when she said, I'm I know, I want the flowers for one of my family and friends. I'm thinking, What friends,
Alex (1:05:22)
Friends, my girl. Like
Paige Blaser (1:05:23)
my girl? Like
Alex (1:05:24)
season two, no one was looking too friendly. Like, what friends are left? Yeah, it does it seems like a very logical next step for her. Like that's what I was gonna mention though, is I actually think she's making the most sense. I think of all the characters, I'm like, yep, I think she's right where she needs to be. I think it makes sense, and I think if anything, judging just this episode, I'm like, this could go so many different ways. But I think maybe I'm curious to see where it will go, but I don't
Paige Blaser (1:05:25)
Season two, no one was looking too friendly. Like what friends are left? Yeah, but it doesn't it seems like a very logical next step for her. Like that's what I was gonna mention though, is I actually think she's making the most sense. I think of all the characters, I'm like, yep, I think she's right where she needs to be. I think it makes sense, and I think if anything, judging just this episode, I'm like this could go so many different ways. But I think maybe ⁓
I'm curious to see where it will go, but I don't
Alex (1:05:52)
Think we're gonna get some like redeeming like character arc from City State. She's a total villain. Yeah, I mean she's like a piece of shit. She fucked over her best friend, and she completely like you know, she was acting like a lunatic towards her mom and Lexi and sold them out. She
Paige Blaser (1:05:52)
think we're gonna get some like redeeming like character arc from City of Switzerland. She's a total villain. Yeah. ⁓
Alex (1:06:07)
jumped into bed with like a known psychopath. Like she doesn't give a fuck. She's like in full villain mode. Well, also, she's not only in full villain mode, I also made a bullet point to say karma is a bitch. I love that they show.
Paige Blaser (1:06:07)
Jumped into bed with like a known psychopath. Yep. Like she doesn't give a fuck. She's like in full villain mode. Well also she's not only in full villain mode, I also made a bullet point to say karma is a bitch. I love that they show
Alex (1:06:22)
Her scrolling and seeing Maddie's life because we have Donna Tell ever Satcha. I love it because I think all too often we don't see like that part of it where it's like the person that you think is like living their best life, like it now has the guy. Like you you know, like poor Maddie is probably
Paige Blaser (1:06:22)
her scrolling and seeing Maddie's life because Yeah, with Donatella Versace. I love it because I think all too often we don't see like that part of it where it's like the person that you think is like living their best life, like it now has the guy. Like you you know, like poor Maddie is probably
But no, she's not. She's just at home, still jealous, still fixated, still checking in, like, hmm, what's my old friend doing? And it's like, dude, you you did this. Like, you caused this mess. So you're not even allowed to be jealous.
Alex (1:06:37)
sad. But no, she's not. She's just at home, still jealous, still fixated, still checking in, like, hmm, what's my old friend doing? And it's like, dude, you you did this, like you caused this mess. So you're not even allowed to be jealous.
Paige Blaser (1:06:52)
Like It's gonna be really interesting to see what the reconciliation looks like. I hope it's not real, but maybe it will be. We'll see. Yeah, Alex was like telling me he hoped it wouldn't be real. And I'm like, I don't want them to be friends. We'll see. I hope Maddie's just using her and
Alex (1:06:52)
Like, it's gonna be really interesting to see what the reconciliation looks like. I hope it's not real, but maybe it will be. We'll see. Yeah, Alex was like telling me he hoped it wouldn't be real, and I'm like, I don't want them to be friends. We'll see. I hope Maddie's just using her and
pulls the rug. We'll see.
Paige Blaser (1:07:08)
Pulls the rug. I kind of feel like
I feel like it would be doing a
Alex (1:07:10)
I feel like it would be doing a
miservice to disservice to Maddie's character if they get back to being like homies. Right. Her defining characteristic is that she's like an unforgiving, like badass. So I hope that anything she's doing is in service of like a bigger scheme. But like meaning when she's loyal, she's loyal, but when someone fucks her over, it's like you're dead to me. And I hope that they like kinda stick to that. For sure. But we'll see. I agree. T V D. So that's kinda any more on Cassie. I mean, all I was gonna say is I just don't think that it's that bizarre and I don't know why.
Paige Blaser (1:07:12)
misservice to l disservice to Maddie's character if they get back to being like homies. Right. Her defining characteristic is that she's like an unforgiving, like badass. Yeah. So I hope that anything she's doing is like a bigger scheme. But like meaning when she's loyal, she's loyal, but when someone fucks her over, it's like you're dead to me. And I hope that they like kind of stick to that. For sure. But we'll see. T B D So that's kinda any more on Cassie, I mean all I was gonna say is I just don't think that it's that bizarre and I don't know why
people are acting like it's so horrible.
Alex (1:07:40)
people are acting like it's so horrible
Paige Blaser (1:07:42)
That she's doing the pop play. I'm like, are we surprised? I'm not surprised at all. And I'm kind of here for it. She's cute as a dog, at least. I don't know about that brown tail on the back. Okay, yeah, the tail's not doing her any favors, but the nose is cute. ⁓
Alex (1:07:42)
that that she's doing the pop play. I'm like, are we surprised? I'm not surprised at all. And I'm kinda here for it. She's cute as a dog at least. I don't know about that brown tail on the back. Okay, yeah, the tail's not doing her any favors, but the nose is cute.
⁓ I did note that like of course Nate drives a cyber truck. Of course. I mean a lot of people online who may not. Yeah, that makes a hundred percent sense. For sure. ⁓
Paige Blaser (1:08:01)
I did note that, like, of course, Nate drives a cyber truck. Of course. I think a lot of people online were memeing that. Yeah, that makes a hundred percent sense. For sure.
here's a really good note I had about Cassie. ⁓ when she's slipping through the book of her like
Alex (1:08:11)
here's a really good note I had about Cassie. when she's slipping through the book ⁓ of her like
Paige Blaser (1:08:18)
Wedding desi the desired florals for the wedding. She has a page that says The Ask, and here's what it says. This was actually cracking me on The Ask. The Ask. Like this is like the book of like her dream book. Yeah, like a PowerPoint of like the wedding. And there's a page that says The Ask. Create a floral installation that is simultaneously stunning and nearly off putting in its over the top obulence. A shrimp cocktail color palette and dynamic floral selection full of whimsy and movement will help narrate the scene.
Alex (1:08:18)
wedding desi the desired florals for the wedding. She has a page that says The Ask and here's what it says. This was actually cracking me up. The ask? The ask. Like this is like the book of like her dream book. Like a PowerPoint. These are the florals she wants. And there's a page that says The Ask. Create a floral installation that is simultaneously stunning and nearly off putting in its over the top opulence. A shrimp cocktail color palette and dynamic floral selection full of whimsy and movement will help narrate the scene. I thought
Paige Blaser (1:08:48)
I thought that was really good because I love the line. It's nearly off-putting. Nearly off-putting and it's over-the-top opulence. Simultaneously stunning and nearly off-putting. And nearly off-putting. Over-the-top opulence. That's a really good line and that's kinda like it's kinda hurt.
Alex (1:08:48)
That was really good because I love the line. It's nearly off-putting. Nearly off-putting and it's over-the-top opulence. Simultaneously stunning and nearly off-putting, and it's over-the-top opulence. That's a really good line, and that's kind of like it's kind of her.
That's also just kind of how like
Paige Blaser (1:09:04)
That's also just kind of how like that's
Alex (1:09:06)
That's how I would wanna be if I was showing up on like the red carpet or something. Like I wanna be like almost off putting in my opulence. Not actually, I'm just kidding. But ⁓ it's a funny line. Like it's a good line. ⁓ I like accurate of her It's really good. I can't believe you like caught that. Nearly off putting is ⁓ really
Paige Blaser (1:09:07)
how I would wanna be if I was showing up on like the red carpet or something. Like I wanna be like almost off putting my opulence. Not actually, I'm just kidding. But No, you're not kidding a funny line. Like it's a good line. ⁓ it's also accurate of her. It's really I can't believe you like caught that.
Alex (1:09:25)
good. Let's see. ⁓ one other thing on their like couple that I thought was funny, like his whole like work scene, you know, when he's on the site.
Paige Blaser (1:09:26)
Let's see. ⁓ one other thing on there, like a couple that I thought was funny. Like his whole like work scene, you know, when he's on the site
of the development. Sure, I was gonna ask you about that. Is I've been seeing online, and you know, I try and not get too in the weeds, but people were saying he's like running a scam business. Is that something maybe we learn out later? Nothing I've seen yet indicates he's running a scam business. So the scam is I think people were saying he's trying to build fast and not like
Alex (1:09:35)
of the development. Sure, I was gonna ask you about that. Is I've been seeing online and you know, I try and not get too in the weeds, but people were saying he's like running a scam business. Is that something maybe we learn out later? Nothing I've seen yet indicates he's running a scam. It seems like he's trying to build a housing device.
Paige Blaser (1:09:54)
People were saying that he's doing the classic again, I'm not in real estate, but it does sound like he's like cutting corners. Like when he's in the room with that other construction worker and the guy's like, Are you sure, boss? He's like, Yeah, like they haven't shown that yet, but I won't be surprised. So far, that was more just like the nature of the business, the construction work like it's like a stereotype that construction workers like never do any work and are never
Alex (1:09:54)
People were saying that he's doing the classic again, I'm not in real estate, but it does sound like he's like cutting corners. Like when he's in the room with that other construction worker and the guy's like, Are you sure, boss? He's Yeah, like they haven't shown that yet, but I won't be surprised. So far, that was more just like the nature of the business, the construction work like it's like a stereotype that construction workers like never do any work and are never
Paige Blaser (1:10:15)
actually working. And he has that investor coming to check in. So he's like, hey, can you guys like just pretend to go work? To go look like a And I was laughing as if you watch the scene after when
Alex (1:10:15)
actually working. And he has that investor coming to check in. So he's like, Hey, can you guys like just pretend to go work? To go look like And I was laughing because if you watch the scene after when
Paige Blaser (1:10:24)
the investor gets there when they're pretending to work. I didn't notice this the first time, but the second time if you look, there's some guys in the background that just like halfway like pretend to like dig for a second with a shovel. They just kinda like stick it in the ground, like shuffle some dirt around. And then they kind of like stand there awkwardly and don't really do anything. And they're just kind of like fucking around with the shovel. You know what it's giving? And I was like, that's funny because like
Alex (1:10:24)
when the investor gets there when they're pretending to work. I didn't notice this the first time, but the second time, if you look, there's some guys in the background that just like
halfway like pretend to like dig for a second with a shovel. They just kinda like stick it in the ground, like shuffle some dirt around and then they kinda like stand there awkwardly and don't really do anything and they're just kinda like fucking around with the shovel. You know what it's giving? And I like, that's funny, 'cause like
Paige Blaser (1:10:45)
Like you on a first glance, you do look at this scene and be like, things are so busy. Look at all the progress. There's trucks moving around everywhere and guys like digging and stuff. And then when you actually like look back at that scene, you're like everyone here is just fucking around. They're just digging holes for no reason. Like all
Alex (1:10:45)
you on a first glance, you do look at this scene and be like, things are so busy. Look at all the progress. There's trucks moving around everywhere and guys like digging and stuff. And then when you actually like look back at that scene, you're like, everyone here is just fucking around. They're just digging holes for no reason. Like
All over the place. There's like this thing's digging here, that thing's digging there, some guys like pretending to dig over here. Like it's a joke. It's all like a big you putting on a show for the investor. It's kind of funny.
Paige Blaser (1:11:01)
over the place, there's this thing's digging here, that thing's digging there, some guys like pretending to dig over here. Like it's a joke. It's all like a big on a show for the investors. You know what it's giving?
Alex (1:11:12)
It's giving Fifth Harmony's performance at the Grammys. Yeah. yeah. When she she's hammering the tractor. She's hammering the tractor. Hammer on the tractor. And then she like, what she like pours a water bottle on the Pour the water on the on the tractor. Yeah, correct. That's what it's giving. Yep. 100%. You were saying that I was like, yeah. So that was funny. I also thought it was pretty funny.
Paige Blaser (1:11:12)
It's giving Fifth Harmony's performance at the Grammys. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. When she she's hammering the tractor. She's hammering the tractor. And then she like what is she like pours a water bottle on the tractor? On the tractor, yeah. That's what it's giving. When you were saying that I was like, Yeah. So that was funny. I also thought it was pretty
funny that the and Savage that the retirement community community he's developing is called ⁓ what is it, Sun Settlers?
Alex (1:11:31)
funny that the and savage that the retirement community community he's developing is called ⁓ what is it sun settlers?
I don't know. Sunsettlers.
Paige Blaser (1:11:40)
I don't know. Sun Settlers.
Jesus. That's kinda dark. That was a dark like kind of funny joke. Sun settlers. Well he does talk about boomers. To a boomer. Isn't that guy talking to a boomer? It's a retirement community. Yeah, but that guy's just there for the money. Sure. But he was like boomers die every day. I like, That guy is a boomer. Why is he saying that? To a boomer. Well that because of that guy's not very good business, and he's trying to sell him on like
Alex (1:11:43)
Jesus. That's kind of dark. I thought that was a dark, like kind of funny joke. 'cause it's for like boomer. It's like a boomer retirement community. Isn't that guy signed to a boomer? It's a retirement community. Yeah, but that guy's just there for the money. Sure. But he was like boomers die every day. I was like, that guy is a boomer. Why is he saying that? To a boomer. Well that because of that guy's the investor, and he's trying to sell him on like
why this is a good idea. And that guy's like, you don't have to sell me, I'm already
Paige Blaser (1:12:05)
Why this is a good idea. And that guy's like, you don't have to sell me, I'm already
invested. I don't give a fuck about your sales pitch. I just to make money. Boring business. So with Nate, we're just gonna get a lot of boring business, is what I'm getting. Yeah, let's see. I think No, I I I do think things will amp up. But yeah, let me pull up my notes. No, I think we've covered Nate and Cassie for now.
Alex (1:12:09)
best. I don't give a fuck about your sales pitch. Like I just want to make money. Boring business. So with me we're just gonna get a lot of boring business is what I'm getting. Yeah, let's see. Anything else? No, I I I do think things will amp up. But yeah, nothing else really from that like whole period. I think like I think we've covered Well the rest of my notes are kind of about like the end like
⁓ about Rue with Alamo. I think we've covered Nate and Cassia. I don't know if I've like missed anything. Nothing else there. But I do feel like it's gonna get pretty buck wild. I think this is
Paige Blaser (1:12:30)
I think we've covered Nate and Cassie. I don't know if I've like missed anything. But I do feel like it's gonna get pretty buck wild. I think this is like
Alex (1:12:39)
This is just the beginning, as Maddie would say. So, what is next after that? Maddie. Speaking of Maddie, Maddie's not in a ton, but we do get a little glimpse into like her life. And I think so far hers is the most
Paige Blaser (1:12:40)
this is just the beginning. Mm-hmm as Maddie would say. So, what is next after that? Matt speaking of Maddie. Maddie's not in a a ton, but we do get a little glimpse into like her life. And I think so far hers is the most
Alex (1:12:55)
like realistic and makes sense for her. Like, she's kind of just doing the classic desk job. She's managing influencers, which is like very Maddie. Like getting paid nothing. Getting paid literally her paycheck was like $855. She's
Paige Blaser (1:12:55)
like realistic and makes sense for her. Like she's kind of just doing the classic desk job. She's managing influencers, which is like very matty. Like getting paid nothing. Getting paid literally her paycheck was like $855. She's
living in like a shitty LA apartment, but that is the most realistic of like LA. And I I know a lot of people might not know that listening in that haven't lived in California, but Alex and I have both like we're out of college, tried to make LA happen.
Alex (1:13:09)
living in like a shitty LA apartment, but that is the most realistic of like LA. And I I know a lot of people might not know that listening in that haven't lived in California, but Alex and I have both like we're out of college, tried to make LA happen.
If you're not an Epo baby or have anyone backing you or
Paige Blaser (1:13:23)
If you're not an epo baby or have anyone backing you or
Especially if you wanna work in film or like influencer management, good luck. Like you're gonna be living just like Maddie, living paycheck to paycheck and not even a full paycheck, like a eight hundred dollar paycheck where half of that goes to parking, your food, your gas. I just meant like it's showing like the real The real downside isn't just the low paycheck, it's like you get degraded for that low paycheck. Yeah. It's not just that it's horrible or you know, poor condition. Her job doesn't seem that bad to get fucking humiliated and that like fucking
Alex (1:13:28)
Especially if you wanna work in film or like influencer management, good luck. Like you're gonna be living just like Maddie, living paycheck to paycheck and not even a full paycheck, like a eight hundred dollar paycheck where half of that goes to parking, your food, your gas. I just meant like it's showing like the real The real downside isn't just the low paycheck, it's that you get degraded for that low paycheck. Yeah. It's not just that it's horrible pay and low you know, poor condition. You have to get fucking humiliated and degraded to get that like fucking,
you know.
Nothing. ⁓
Paige Blaser (1:13:58)
I loved the real ⁓ the real
rub. I loved to the stupid Dylan celebrity. How she was like, just fucking shut up when he when he was like, Do I have to watch the movie? I'm like, God, at least they're like depicting influencers perfectly, like complaining about having to like sit through a movie. I'm like, What I would fucking give to watch a movie and get paid. I'd be making I'd be a millionaire. Yeah, Lexican. She'd be a millionaire. She's got the she's got the good apartment. Yeah.
Alex (1:14:01)
I loved to the stupid Dylan celebrity. How she was like, just fucking shut up when he when he was like, Do I have to watch the movie? I'm like, God, at least they're like depicting influencers perfectly, like complaining about having to like sit through a movie. I'm like, what I would fucking do to watch a movie and get paid. I'd be making I'd be a millionaire. Yeah, ⁓ Lexi really screwed. Lexi really scored though. She's got the she's got the good apartment. Yeah.
Paige Blaser (1:14:29)
Mm Maddie does not.
Yeah, LSO. And well, it's just more like taste though. I think they both are living in like cheap apartments, but Maddie's a little more like You think Lexi's apartment is cheap? ⁓ you think her mom's helping her out?
Alex (1:14:32)
It's just more like taste though. I think they both are living in like cheap apartments, but Maddie's a little more like You think Lexi's apartment is cheap? ⁓ you think her mom's helping her out?
No, I think she probably just makes enough money at her like studio job. But I can't imagine that's cheap. Like that should that should be cheap and it would have been cheap, you know, twenty years ago, but any more stuff no a pool with a fireplace and a kitchen. Like you gotta be kidding me. Of course. But yeah, so Maddie though That's the dream spot now. Maddie though over
Paige Blaser (1:14:42)
No, I think she probably just makes enough money. She's probably just doing a little better. I can't imagine that's cheap. Like that should that should be cheap and it would have been cheap, you know, twenty years ago, but But with a pool and stuff, no. A pool with a fireplace and a kitchen. Like you gotta be kidding me. Of course. But yeah, so Maddie though is the dream spot now. Maddie though, overall,
I will say, I think they've done a good job. Like, I get it. This is exactly where I thought she'd be. I am excited to see
Alex (1:15:03)
will say I think they've done a good job, like I get it. This is exactly where I thought she'd be. I am excited to see
what she does with Cassie for sure. I hope she's seizing it as a money opportunity because if I'm Maddie, I'm thinking, yeah, I'll definitely do this little pop play. Get me out of this apartment and then say Cyanara bitch. I just hope it's a revenge scheme, but we'll see. That is that what I'm saying, like I hope she I kinda hope she does 'cause that would be me. I'd be like, hmm
Paige Blaser (1:15:11)
what she does with Cassie for sure. I hope she's seizing it as a money opportunity because if I'm Maddie, I'm thinking, yeah, I'll definitely do this little pup play. Get me out of this apartment and then say Cyanara bitch. I decided it's a revenge scheme, but we'll see. That is revenge, I'm saying like I hope she
I kinda hope she does, 'cause that would be me. I'd be like, hmm,
Alex (1:15:32)
Maybe I will hit up old bestie. Doesn't it sound nice at fresh cooks? God, we're gonna lose our equipment over here. No, no.
Paige Blaser (1:15:33)
maybe I will hit up old bestie. Careful with that money. Alex. At Fresh Cooks. No, no. Okay, so we've kinda covered all the characters other than we get back to Rue. Yeah, I think we just kinda talk about the scenario at the end. I did want to bring up that I love that Rue and Lexi are kinda like still hanging. Like I think season two rewatching with Alex, I was thinking
Alex (1:15:41)
Okay, so we've kind of covered all the characters other than we get back to Rue. Yeah, I think we just kinda gotta talk about the scenario at the end. I did wanna bring up that I love that Rue and Lexi are kinda like still hanging. Like I think season two rewatching with Alex, I was thinking
I the second time or or for me it was probably like the sixth time around watching for Alex, like the second. But for me, I think I got out of that time Rue and Lexi's like
Paige Blaser (1:15:59)
I the second time or or for me it was probably like the sixth time around watching for Alex, like the second. But for me, I think I got out of that time Rue and Lexi's like friendship
Alex (1:16:11)
friendship specifically like really touched me. Like I felt like it was just so like sweet and sincere. And I like the end of season two when you really see them like get real and kind of like talk about their past and how they're the same but different. And
Paige Blaser (1:16:12)
specifically like really touched me. Like I felt like it was just so like sweet and sincere. And I like the end of season two when you really see them like get real and kind of like talk about their past and how they're the same but different and
Alex (1:16:28)
I saw it was like really touching like on a serious note. Like I really liked it. So I like I like even though it's like funny and casual now that they're still like keeping in touch. I think that's really like sweet. And even though Lexi probably is like I know Ru's up to no good
Paige Blaser (1:16:29)
I just thought it was like really touching, like on a serious note. Like I really liked it. So I liked I like even though it's like funny and casual now that they're still like keeping in touch. I think that's really like sweet. And even though Lexi probably is like, I know it was up to no good
She's
Alex (1:16:41)
She's probably like, I'm too busy, like, I don't care. Like, she's an adult now. Like I mean she gives her like her lecture, but I guess it's like it is a funny lecture too. She's like, You need to get your life together. Like, Uber's gonna die. Like AI is missing. Lexi maybe hasn't come as far as maybe she thinks she does.
Paige Blaser (1:16:41)
probably like I'm too busy, like I don't care. Like she's an adult now. Like I mean she gives her like her lecture, but I guess Yeah, it is a funny lecture too. She's like, You need to get your life together. Like Uber's gonna die. Like AI's gonna take over. Because I do feel like it highlights the kind of like what I was saying earlier, Lexi maybe hasn't come as far as maybe she thinks she does. Ha ha maybe she hasn't come as far as she thinks she has. Really? I think in that whole She's still smart though, like she is right. She's like, Can't be an Uber driver, my girl. Like come on.
Alex (1:17:01)
Ha ha maybe she hasn't come as far as she thinks she has. Really? I think in that whole scene. She's like, can't be an Uber driver, my girl. Like, come
on. For sure, but she's like a little naive in that she thinks Rue's really like supporting herself driving for Uber, like Y yeah. Yeah. You know, I swe I think it's sweet that they're homies again and tight, but I'm also like
Paige Blaser (1:17:11)
For sure, but she's like a little naive in that she thinks Rue's really like supporting herself driving for Uber, like Y yeah. Yeah. You know, I swe I think it's sweet that they're homies again and tight, but I'm also like
Come Come on, Lexi. Like and also you know Do you really think she's visiting Gia in Arizona? Like, come on. Yeah, like I feel like she's Or do you think she's just playing along, being like that friend? Like I I do that sometimes where you're like, it's just not my business. Like, how old are we now? Like maybe in high school you would have been a little more like on someone that's your friend, but at what point do you just kinda go, Okay, like they'll come to me when they need to, but like maybe she's just kinda playing the game, like how's Gia? But really is like Hmm. That's possible. ⁓ I have to go to the bathroom.
Alex (1:17:26)
Come on. Come on, Lexi. Like and also you like Do you really think she's visiting Gia in Arizona? Like, come on. Yeah, like I feel like she's Or do you think she's just playing along, being like that friend? Like I I do that sometimes where you're like, It's just not my business, like how old are we now? Like maybe in high school you would have been a little more like on someone that's your friend, but at what point do you just kinda go, Okay, like they'll come to me when they need to, but like maybe she's just kinda playing the game. Like, how's Gia? But really is like Hm That's possible. ⁓ I have to go to the bathroom.
Paige Blaser (1:17:56)
Alright, we're back. We're back. You're back. I'm back. I'm back, but we are so bad. I mean when you're drinking this much cooks, it's bound to happen. Certainly. But okay, so we were saying we are we were talking about Rue and Lexi's friendship. And then the only other thing I wanted to say before we like move on is
Alex (1:17:56)
we're back. We're so I'm back. I'm back, but we are so back.
Certainly. But okay, so we were saying we are we were talking about Rue and Lexi's friendship. And then the only other thing I wanted to say before we like move on is
Fezco is brought up. Yep. Why do you think Lexi's not talking to him? Sad. I think we'll find out. I mean Just to hurt? I was gonna say, to be fair, we don't know yet how much she knows. Like
Paige Blaser (1:18:16)
Vezco is brought up. Yep. Why does she think Lexi's not talking to him? Sad. I think we'll find out. I mean Just too hurt? I was gonna say, to be fair, we don't know yet how much she knows, like,
about the situation. I I would assume most, but like about him not making it to the play. Like does she even know he was on the way?
Alex (1:18:33)
About the situation, I I would assume most, but like about him not making it to the play. Like does she even know he was on the way? Yeah.
Paige Blaser (1:18:42)
Yeah, I mean she's gonna because like something like 'Cause something like him getting arrested is gonna be public record. So if she finds out he got arrested and sees that it overlap with the time and date of the play, it's like pretty obvious what was going on and why he missed the play. Especially I mean, his he's gonna he was arrested in his suit for the play, like, you know, I think it's sure. She's
Alex (1:18:42)
I mean she's gonna because like something like an arrest is gonna be. Like, you know, I think it's like Sure.
She knows. But do you think like do you think she knows the extent of like how much he cared though? Like when he was like getting ready and like you know, like season two it's so heartbreaking. Like he's putting so much effort in.
Paige Blaser (1:19:04)
But do you think
Like, do you think she knows the extent of like how much he cared though? Like when he was like getting ready and like you know, like season two it's so heartbreaking. Like he's putting so much effort in.
what I was saying is I I wonder to what extent does she know like everything. That's what I mean. Like it's okay to be a little bitter if someone misses your play. I mean they really were connecting. I don't think she's bitter. Not about missing the play. No.
Alex (1:19:16)
what I was saying is I I wonder to what extent does she know like everything. That's what I mean. Like it's okay to be a little bitter if someone misses your play. I mean they really were connecting. I don't think she's bitter. Not about missing the channel. No
Paige Blaser (1:19:33)
Yeah, but maybe it just like hurt her feelings. Like they were getting really close. No, I don't think so. She's a way cooler person, like than to be like Okay. Than to think the the timing is too crazy. He obviously has to play 'cause of the his house got raided by a SWAT team. Like Not to be mean. Here's my other guess. I could see myself being like this. Hear me out. She's very practical. So maybe in the moment when it happened.
Alex (1:19:33)
Yeah, but maybe it just like hurt her feelings. Like they were getting really close. No, I don't think so. She's a way cooler person, like, than to be like Okay. Than to think the the timing is too crazy. He obviously missed the play because of the his house got raided by a SWAT team. Like Not to be mean. Here's my other guess. I could see myself being like this. Hear me out. She's very practical. So maybe in the moment when it happened,
it was really intense and maybe she
Paige Blaser (1:20:01)
It was really intense and maybe she felt
Alex (1:20:03)
Felt some ways. But now things have moved on. Maybe not for her Fezco, but like she's moving on. Like she's got the apartment, she's got this job. Sometimes reopening old things is kind of like So she's like, this guy's in prison for 30 years. I need to just like And she's rather avoid it because if she talks to him, that's like that's gonna be hard because she does like him and there was a connection and there was like a friendship. Even if it even if it
Paige Blaser (1:20:03)
some ways. But now things have moved on. Maybe not for her Fezco, but like she's moving on. Like she's got the apartment, she's got this job. Sometimes reopening old things is kinda like So she's like this guy's in prison for thirty years and just like And she's rather avoid it because if she talks to him that's like that's gonna be hard because she does like him and there was a connection and there was like a friendship. Even if it even if it
Alex (1:20:27)
you know isn't more, even just reopening that could be like hard, especially and distracting.
Paige Blaser (1:20:28)
You know, isn't more, even just reopening that could be like hard, especially and distracting.
Alex (1:20:33)
Like, I don't mean that in a negative way. I mean that's just a practical thing. That's a very page thing. Like, that's kinda without realizing it. Like when Rue's like, I think it would mean a lot to him, you can tell for the first time she's like registering, like, really? I agree. Meaning, I don't think she's doing it with bad intent. I think she's just kind of like, I'm moving on. Like, life has to go on. That makes sense. We'll see. Alright,
Paige Blaser (1:20:33)
Like I don't mean that in a negative way. I mean that's just a practical Yeah, okay. That's a very page thing. Like that's kinda without realizing it. Like when Rue's like I think it would mean a lot to him, you can tell for the first time she's like registering, like, really? I agree. Meaning I don't think she's doing it with bad intent. I think she's just kinda like, I'm moving on, like life has to go on. But we'll see.
Alright, cool. So other than that, I'm like, I guess Rue is
Alex (1:20:58)
cool. So other than that, I'm like, I guess Rue's
And I will say, like, the ending made it for me. I thought the ending was like, yeah, we're back, baby. Like it was good. It was intense, it was fun, and it was very rude. And I like all the new additions to the cast. ⁓ who's the actor's name that plays Alamo? Do you know it by heart? His name is Adewale, and
Paige Blaser (1:21:02)
our ending, yeah. And I will say, like, the ending made it for me. I thought the ending was like, yeah, we're back, baby. Like it was good. It was intense, it was fun, and it was very rude, and I like all the new additions to the cast. ⁓ Who's the actor's name that plays Alamo? Do you know it by heart? His name is Adewale
Alex (1:21:27)
I really am not gonna try to pronounce his last name. I can I can figure it out later, but he's great.
Paige Blaser (1:21:27)
It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. I can I can figure it out later, but he's great. He
has a lot I'm like, okay, loving him. he's good. A daily ⁓ a daywile from Congo fame. He was in Congo, that absolute banger. One of the most psychotic movies of all. The one with the monkeys smoking a cig on the private jet? What's it called again? Lasers at the end. It's called Congo. You and I'm ⁓
Alex (1:21:32)
I'm like a cast. Loving ⁓ him. ⁓ Congo fame. He was in Congo, that absolute banger. One of the most psychotic movies of all time. The one with the monkeys smoking a cigarette. The one with the gorilla smoking a cig smoking a cigar and drinking a martini on the jet, and then there's lasers at the end. It's called Congo. You and I watched that one. The listener's a little
background. Congo is one of the worst, most insane movies of all time. In a good way. We're bad good. Bad.
Paige Blaser (1:21:57)
Congo is one of the worst, most insane movies of all time. In a good way. Bad good. Bad
Alex (1:22:02)
Worst. ⁓ good worst, I mean. ⁓
Paige Blaser (1:22:02)
worst. good worst, I mean. I don't even know where to start. You just kind of really have to experience Congo for yourself. But there's a super intelligent gorilla that likes to drink martinis and smoke cigars, and there's a whole plot about a tribe of gorillas in the Congo, and there's lasers involved, and it's really like a completely bonk. And he's in that?
Alex (1:22:08)
I don't even know where to start. You just kind of really have to experience Congo for yourself. But there's a super intelligent gorilla that likes to drink martinis and smoke cigars, and there's a whole plot about a tribe of gorillas in the Congo, and there's lasers involved, and it's really like a completely bonk. And he's in that?
Because I watched it with you. Yeah, he's in that. That's actually the first movie listed on his ⁓ his resume, I'm pretty sure. He's also in other things of, you know, greater ⁓ greater regard. Like he was in game of three.
Paige Blaser (1:22:25)
'Cause I watched it with you. I don't remember. It's actually the first movie listed on his ⁓ Resume. He's also in other things of, you know, greater ⁓ greater regard. Like he was in Game of Thrones
Alex (1:22:37)
Thrones
and he was also in ⁓ the Golden Compass show that HBO did. Well anyways, I I feel like he is just killing it for me. Like I
Paige Blaser (1:22:38)
and he was also in the Golden Compass show that HBO did. Well, anyways, I I feel like he is just killing it for me. Like I was like He's ⁓ great. He's gonna be good. Like I I I I got good vibes. I like his aura. I like
Alex (1:22:46)
He's great. He's gonna be good. Like I I got good vibes. I like his aura. I like
He's been in a bunch of stuff that we've seen. He's just really good. I like it. I was very convinced. I didn't think it was like over I saw a lot of reviews that were like it's a little like try hard, like over the top. I'm like, absolutely not. I feel like he's perfect, like dr he's exactly what I picture. Like if I'm Rue and I'm dropping off the that's why I picture being the head on Chef. I got I got a fun fact for you about him.
Paige Blaser (1:22:53)
He's been in a bunch of stuff that we've seen. Yeah. He's just really good. I like it. I was very convinced. I didn't think it was like over I saw a lot of reviews that were like it's a little like try hard, like over the top. I'm like, absolutely not. I feel like he's the perfect like dr he's exactly what I picture. Like if I'm Rue and I'm dropping off drugs, that's why I picture being the head honcho. I got I got a fun fact for you about him.
Alex (1:23:16)
One of his other roles, he's the voice of Major Laser on the Major Laser cartoon.
Paige Blaser (1:23:16)
One of his other roles, he's the voice of Major Laser on the Major Laser cartoon.
that makes sense. Pretty fucking cool. Okay, I can see it. Pretty pretty bad. That's fun. That's really cool. ⁓ also on ⁓ giant like monster movies, the the audiobook. I looked up the audiobook of the Bible that Rue reads 'cause I could tell there were some like big news. Reads? in the car. Okay. She puts on the audiobook of the Bible and it's like a well known version and it
Alex (1:23:23)
Which is pretty fucking cool. Okay, I can see it. Pretty pretty bad. That's fun. That's really cool. ⁓ also on ⁓ giant like monster movies, the the audiobook. I looked up the audiobook of the Bible that Rue reads 'cause I could tell there were some like big names in it. it's that she listens to. Okay. She puts on the audiobook of the Bible and it's like a well known version and it
Paige Blaser (1:23:46)
It has John Voigt ⁓ on it. You know, from Honda. ⁓ and it also has
Alex (1:23:46)
has John Voigt ⁓ on it, you know, from Anaconda. ⁓ and it also has
Paige Blaser (1:23:53)
you know, it has a ton of people, Jim Caviesel's on it and like Max von Seidau and all these you know, big actors. the fact that she's even listening to the Bible, I'm like so boring. She doesn't like a very well known like audiobook version with all these big A.
Alex (1:23:53)
You know, it has a ton of people. Jim Cavizel's on it and like Max von Seidau and all these you know, big actors and the fact that she's even listening to the Bible and like so boring. But it's like a very well known like audiobook version with all these big A-less like actors
attached to it. I mean controversial take button.
Paige Blaser (1:24:11)
Controversial take, but the
Bible is just boring. Shout out Anaconda, shout out Congo. Love big monsters. So ⁓ the other new edition though, he's a football player, right?
Alex (1:24:12)
Shout out Anaconda, shout out Congo. Love big monster mov big dumb monster movies. So ⁓ the other new addition though, he's a football player, right?
Paige Blaser (1:24:24)
So the the bad guy. Marsha Marsha what is it, Marshawn Lynch? Yeah, he has two he has two members of his crew, he has Marshawn Lynch as some kind of like thug, you know, enforcer type character. And then I really liked the other guy. Sam. Bishop. I thought he was really interested. And you know what's crazy? So he reminded me a lot of a character from the wire that
Alex (1:24:25)
So the the bad guy Alan. Marsha what is it? Marshawn Lynch? Yeah, he has two he has two members of his crew, he has Marshawn Lynch as some kind of like thug, you know, enforcer type character. And then I really liked the other guy. Sam. Bishop. I thought he was really interesting. And you know what's crazy? So he reminded me a lot of a character from The Wire that
you probably remember. Do you remember ⁓ I think his name's Brother Mazone? Yeah. He's like the like assassin from the ⁓ the Muslim Brotherhood. ⁓
Paige Blaser (1:24:45)
probably remember. Do you remember ⁓ I think his name is Brother Mazone? Yeah. He's like the like assassin from the ⁓ the Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, yeah.
and he reminded me a lot of that guy because he's like really meticulous and like serious and formal kind of and kind of like autistic almost. So then I looked up what that the actor playing Bishop, the guy on Euphoria had done and he was in the wire too.
Alex (1:24:55)
And he reminded me a lot of that guy because he's like really meticulous and like serious and formal kind of and kind of like autistic almost. So then I looked up what that the actor playing Bishop, the guy on Euphoria, had done, and he was in the wire too.
I was like interesting. So I feel like that character that character feels very inspired by Brother Mazone from The Wire to me. Just like this kind of really odd ball.
Paige Blaser (1:25:11)
Damn. That was like a interesting thing. So I feel like that character that character feels very inspired by The Wire. Brother Mizone from The Wire to me. Just like this kind of really oddball like
criminal character that's very smart and calculating and serious and cold. I like it. I see a lot of potential here. I like where the plot is going. I I mean of course Rue immediately is a complete idiot. It's like, I gotta take a piss.
Alex (1:25:24)
criminal character that's very smart and calculating and
serious and cold. I like it. I see a lot of potential here. I like where the plot is going. I I mean of course Rue immediately is a complete idiot. It's like, I gotta take a piss.
Paige Blaser (1:25:40)
And I will say I'm I feel like That's what I meant earlier when I'm like Rue is also so spoken. But she's also a great drug mule. No, she's a good drug mule. she's really good though, and hot. But
Alex (1:25:41)
And I will say I'm I feel like That's what I meant earlier when I'm like Rue is also so great. No, she's a good drum girl. she's really good though and hot. But
Paige Blaser (1:25:55)
And hot. And hot. yeah. Well no, I was thinking the strainer? Yeah, yeah. yeah, no, that was gross. I forgot about that when she shits in that strainer. There was also a lot of spaghetti in this episode.
Alex (1:25:55)
And hot. And hot. yeah. Well no, I was thinking the strainer? Yeah, yeah. ⁓ yeah, no, that was gross. I forgot about that when she shits in that strainer. There was also a lot of spaghetti in this episode.
That was pretty funny, the transition. Because Cassie makes spaghetti for Nate and then also
Paige Blaser (1:26:07)
That was pretty funny, the transition of her shit. And then also ⁓
you know, Faye makes spaghetti for the family for the boy that she likes in the inbred family. The inbred, yeah. I like how she's like, they're definitely probably inbred. With the crackhead stabler. Yeah. They look imbr and Faye's like having a little romantic like moment and then the guy's a total ass and you're like, Okay, okay, come on, farting Faye. They're flirting. You could do better. They like each other. I know, it's kinda cute. She's gonna rob him with a room.
Alex (1:26:13)
Faye makes spaghetti for the family for the boy that she likes in the inbred family. The inbred, yeah. I like how she's like they're definitely probably inbred. With the crackhead stabler. Yeah. Yeah. They look in bread. And Fae is like having a little romantic like moment and then the guy's a total ass and you're like, Okay. Okay, come on, farting face. They're flirting. You could do better. We like each other. I know, it's kinda cute. But she's gonna rob him with Rue,
probably. ⁓ for sure. But anyways, we got sidetracked, but that's okay. We always go down rabbit holes.
Paige Blaser (1:26:37)
Probably. for sure. But anyways, we got sidetracked, but that's okay. We always go down rabbit holes.
⁓ I was thinking of ⁓ when Rue goes into the bathroom and like runs into that girl and is like, shit, sorry. Yeah. ⁓ I was kinda thinking, this is the first time we've seen her be just like kinda like flowy and chill about
Alex (1:26:43)
⁓ I was thinking of, ⁓ when Rue goes into the bathroom and like runs into that girl and is like, shit, sorry. Yep. ⁓ I was kind of thinking, this is the first time we've seen her be just like kind of like flowy and chill about
being into people since Jules. I feel like obviously season two was so long ago because we've done this like time jump. But I thought it was kind of refreshing to see her be a little more like.
Paige Blaser (1:26:59)
being into people since jewels. I feel like obviously season two was so long ago 'cause we've done this like time jump. But I thought it was kind of refreshing to see her be a little more like
like interesting. Do think she was into that girl? for sure.
Alex (1:27:10)
Like interesting. Do you think she was into that girl? for sure.
Interesting. I didn't get the vibe that she was into her particular girl. Seriously, but I think she was attracted. I mean, the first thing she says to Alamo when they're at the bar, she's like, Damn, like these women, like Well, she was obviously stoked on that. She was into the other ladies. She's like dancing around on the you know.
Paige Blaser (1:27:12)
Interesting. I didn't get the vibe that she was particularly. Not like seriously, but I think she was attracted. I mean, the first thing she says to Alamo and at the bar, she's like, Damn, like these women, like they're She was obviously stoked. She was into the women. She's like dancing around on the Yeah, but I think
it started with the girl in the bathroom. She like helping her out and was like, Yeah, of course I'll help you. Like she was like being flirty. Yeah, sure, okay. Yeah, I thought it was cute.
Alex (1:27:28)
It started with the girl in the bathroom. She like helping her out and was like, Yeah, of course I'll help you. Like she was like being flirty. Yeah, sure. Okay. Yeah, I thought it was cute.
Interesting. I guess what I meant by that is I think it's cute to see her be a little more laid back about this stuff 'cause I think her and Jules were so intense and it was so much and I think it really like weighed on her in seasons one and two. I think the Yeah, I what was that look? I'm saying I think Okay. I'm saying there's a
Paige Blaser (1:27:35)
I guess what I meant by that is I think it's cute to see her be a little more laid back about this stuff 'cause I think her and Jules were so intense and it was so much and I think it really like weighed on her in seasons one and two. I think the Yeah, I what was that look? I'm saying I think Okay. I'm saying there's a separation
Alex (1:27:57)
I didn't mean for that to be scathing. I mean more like, I don't know. There's a separation of high school versus like
Paige Blaser (1:27:58)
of I didn't mean for that to be scathing. I think more like, I don't know. There's a separation of high school versus like
Alex (1:28:04)
when you mature and are a little more adult and have more experience in your belt. I think
Paige Blaser (1:28:04)
When you mature and are a little more adult and have more experience in your belt. I think
seasons one and two, it's perfect in showing that in high school you can think you're just in love with someone and you think this is the end all, be all, this is your person. And then sometimes you you you kind of need to like take a beat. Like take a second. I'm still holding out for angels. I'm not talking about them in particular though. I'm saying in general in life. I do think it's healthy sometimes to take a step back and like make sure that you
Alex (1:28:09)
seasons one and two, it's perfect in showing that in high school you can think you're just in love with someone and you think this is the end all, be all, this is your person. And then sometimes you you kind of need to like take a beat. Like take a second. I'm still holding out for an Jewel. I'm not talking about them in particular though. I'm saying in general in life. I do think it's healthy sometimes to take a step back and like make sure that you
live your life a little before you just like hone in on one person that young, that
Paige Blaser (1:28:34)
live your life a little before you just like hone in on one person that young, that
Alex (1:28:39)
quick and that fast. Yep. Or else it'll just lead to like troubles down the line. So I'm saying I think it's refreshing to see her like kinda having some fun. I don't know. Maybe that's right on down the line.
Paige Blaser (1:28:39)
quick, and that fast. Yep. Or else it'll just lead to like troubles down the line. So I'm saying I think it's refreshing to see her like kinda having some fun. I don't know. Maybe that's like on down the line.
Alex (1:28:50)
I think a lot of people are not feeling that way because everyone stands the rules of it all. But I'm kinda more like I'm glad she's just kinda taking a breather. I think it was a little much with the addiction plus I think it's the least of her concerns, but I I understand. Sure. Sure. But is Jules really
Paige Blaser (1:28:51)
I think a lot of people are not feeling that way 'cause everyone stands the rules of it all. But I'm kinda more like I'm glad she's just kinda taking a breather. I think it was a little much with the addiction plus I think it's the least of her concerns, but I I understand Yeah, sure. Sure. But is Jules really
Alex (1:29:09)
the best for her right now. I mean we'll find out in episode two, but it sounds like she's doing her own wacko thing. So I'm kinda like aren't they kinda both being toxic in their own ways? They need to save each other.
Paige Blaser (1:29:09)
the best for her right now? I mean we'll find out in an episode two, but it sounds like she's doing her own wacko thing. So I'm kinda like, aren't they kinda both being toxic in their own ways? They need to save each other.
My god. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways. ⁓ cool, yeah. I just liked that. I thought she was having fun. I like when you ⁓ get a glimpse of her like dancing with all the girls and like she's like having fun. Like I haven't really seen that side of her, I guess is my point. We've only ever really seen her with jewels and it's been so serious. So it was fun seeing her in her like tank top, like dancing with the girls and like having fun. It was just cute. Yeah, sure. I understand. We've seen jewels do that. We've seen all the other girls do that, but we haven't gotten to see
Alex (1:29:21)
Like or yeah. Yeah, anyways. cool, yeah. I just like that. I thought she was having fun. I like when you get a glimpse of her like dancing with all the girls and like she's like having fun. Like I haven't really seen that side of her, I guess is my point. We've only ever really seen her with jewels and it's been so serious. So it was fun seeing her in her like tank top, like dancing with the girls and like having fun. It's just cute. Yeah, sure. I understand. We've seen jewels do that. We've seen all the other girls do that, but we haven't gotten to see Rue
like
Paige Blaser (1:29:50)
Rue like
Alex (1:29:51)
have some fun. So even though it was in a very bad circumstance, like she probably shouldn't be doing that on a drug mule trip. Probably I still kinda liked seeing it. Sure. And the pool that in that house is so fucking cool. Alamo's house. Excellent. Great house. Also good taste in music. He was playing Do Your Thing by Isaac Hayes. Best song in the episode in my opinion. yeah.
Paige Blaser (1:29:51)
have some fun. So even though it was in a very bad circumstance, like she probably shouldn't be doing that on a drug mule trip. Probably not. I still kinda liked seeing it. Sure. And the pool that in that house is so fucking cool. Alamo's house. Excellent. Great house. So good. Also a good taste in music. He was playing Do Your Thing by Isaac Hayes. Best song in the episode, in my opinion. ⁓ yeah.
Alex (1:30:16)
Cool.
Paige Blaser (1:30:16)
Cool.
Cool spot. Great spot. Really really good spot. Interesting though. Well, and then there's the the fentanyl. So I was gonna ask you, like, why do you think do you think it was with intent that they fucked with the drugs? 'Cause the girl overdoses with the drugs she brings. And I'm like, was that it with intent or was that just sloppy? Nah, they're not trying to start a war in that way. I'm sure they've just were sloppy? they no, they just stepped on it. They cut it, you know. They're mixing in a little fent 'cause it's cheaper.
Alex (1:30:17)
Cool spot. Great spot. Really, really good spot. Interesting. Great architecture. Well, and then there's the the fentanyl. So I was gonna ask you, like, why do you think do you think it was with intent that they fucked the drugs? 'Cause the girl overdoses with the drugs she brings. And I'm like, was that it with intent or was that just sloppy? Nah, they're not trying to start a war in that way. I'm sure they just were stepping on it. They no, they just stepped on it. They cut it, you know. They're mixing in a little fent 'cause it's cheaper.
⁓
Stronger and they Lori must have thought for some reason that she could pass this off to this guy without him noticing and get away with it. And he noticed and it's probably not gonna work out very well. Yeah, I feel like Laurie isn't as like badass as she's giving off. This season definitely makes her look a lot weaker than she did in season two.
Paige Blaser (1:30:46)
Stronger and they Lori must have thought for some reason that she could pass this off to this guy without him noticing and get away with it. And it's probably not gonna work out very well. Yeah, I feel like Laurie isn't as like badass as she's giving off. She seems a little messy. ⁓
The operation that she's running looks decent, but it's definitely like we're getting the sense that she's like, you know, a small fish in a big pond right now.
Alex (1:31:16)
The operation that she's running looks decent, but it's definitely like we're getting the sense that she's like, you know, small fish in a big pond right now.
Well, she's definitely not the big the big player that she thought ⁓ she had a she would hypothetically had a lot more going than just him. I know, but she was supposed to be in this like, you know, big deal, like and sure. But he was a part of the puzzle. They mentioned that. They've brought in the world and shown that she's you know, really
Paige Blaser (1:31:24)
Well, she lost That ⁓ she thought, ⁓ she had a she would hypothetically had a lot more going than just him. I know, but that was Sure. But he was a part of the puzzle. They've brought in the world and shown that she's you know, really
not as like, you know, hardcore and also I meant to say this. Did you catch how for people like you and I that are really bad at math, I'm curious how many people caught the the math that she gives Rue about how much Rue owes.
Alex (1:31:42)
like, you know, hardcore and big as she thought. Also, ⁓ I meant to say this. Did you catch how for people like you and I that are really bad at math, I'm curious how many people caught that the math that she gives Rue about how much Rue owes
Paige Blaser (1:31:54)
⁓ I know. I mean I
Alex (1:31:54)
her is like totally fucked. Yeah, okay. ⁓ I know. I mean I
Paige Blaser (1:31:58)
was thinking, Rue, come on. 140 or something? I was like, no. I She was like ten percent interest, and then she'd
Alex (1:31:58)
thinking Rue come on a hundred and forty million or something I was like no I she was like ten percent interest and then she'd like
Paige Blaser (1:32:05)
Like, it's actually it's actually about a hundred thousand dollars, which is what she's ask actually asking for. But she was obviously just fucking with her. But it's funny because I was like, That's probably a joke to people that are good at math. They probably picked up on that right away as like a joke, but I'm so s fucking. Stupid, you didn't even care. I'm so bad at math. I knew I'm bad at math. I didn't recognize the humor like offhand. I had to like calculate it behind
Alex (1:32:05)
to it's actually it's actually about a hundred thousand dollars which is what she's ask actually asking for but she was obviously just fucking with her but it's funny because I was like that's probably a joke to people that are good at math they probably picked up on that right away as like a joke but I'm so s fucking bad at math I'm so bad at math I didn't recognize like the bad at math I didn't recognize the humor like offhand I had to like calculate it behind
Paige Blaser (1:32:28)
the scenes to be like, my god, Alan. I'm bad at math, and even I knew. ⁓ God, yeah.
Alex (1:32:28)
Scenes to be like, she's fucking with her. I see. I'm mad at math than even I knew. Yeah,
good for me. But no, I mean I just think that she's kinda whatever.
Paige Blaser (1:32:35)
Good for me. But no, I mean I just think that she's kinda whatever.
Like I think that we're gonna find out she's a little more sloppy. Also, if you have rue and Faye working for you, like I'm sorry, you're not running business very tight. But also Alamo's about to They're doing all though. Alamo is kinda seeming interested in Rue though, so maybe I'm wrong. She's obviously trying to switch teams, so I think she's going to be doing Do you think she's going to? Yes, of course.
Alex (1:32:39)
I think that we're gonna find out she's a little more sloppy. Also, if you have R Rue and Faye working for you, like I'm sorry. You're not running business very tight. But also Alamo's about to They're doing alright though. Alamo is kinda seeming interested in Rue though, so maybe I'm wrong. She's obviously trying to switch teams, so I think she's going to She's not gonna be working for I know. Yes, of course.
That's what she wants. Alamo's gonna be interested. She's not gonna be working for L'Oreal. Well, before talk about the last scene, was there anything else in the house that was like fun or interesting to go?
Paige Blaser (1:33:00)
That's what she wants. Alan is gonna be interested. She's not gonna be working for a Lord. Well, before I talk about the last scene, was there anything else in the house that was like fun or interesting to you?
Alex (1:33:09)
Nope. Okay. Cause all I was gonna say is the end scene, the apple scene, was like
Paige Blaser (1:33:09)
Nope. Okay. Cause all I was gonna say is the end scene, the Apple scene, was like
Alex (1:33:17)
again, like Zendaya really does like rise to the occasion. I was like, she's so good. Like I don't see Zendaya. I I only see Rue. Like I I don't even remember that that's her. She's so good. Like that when she's like, I'm like freaking out when the apple gets shot off her head. I was like, damn, this season's gonna be great. She's just such a good actress.
Paige Blaser (1:33:17)
Again, like Zendaya really does like rise to the occasion. I was like, she's so good. Like, I don't see Zendaya. I d I only see Rue. Like, I I don't even remember that that's her. She's so good. Like that when she's like, ⁓ ho! I'm like freaking out when the apple gets shot off her head. I was like, damn, this season's gonna be great. She's just such a good actress.
Alex (1:33:39)
Like she's so captivating. It was so funny to like
Paige Blaser (1:33:39)
Like, she's so captivating. It was so funny to like
Alex (1:33:44)
see that reaction from Rue because you're like, damn, she really is just like out here being so carefree. Like, this should this would have scared anyone to shit. And she's like, I survived. Like, this is great. I mean, she's crying before it happens. She's scared. Even for Rue. I was I was actually interested that she was crying because I was like, Well, anyone would be crying. Maybe you're about to get shot in the face. Well, I don't know. Rue in past seasons has.
Paige Blaser (1:33:44)
see that reaction from Rue because you're like, damn, she really is just like out here being so carefree. Like this should this would have scared anyone to shit. And she's like, I survived. Like this is great. I mean she's crying before it happens. She's scared. Even for Rue. I was I was actually interested that she was crying 'cause I was like, Well anyone would be crying. Maybe You're about to get shot in the face. I don't know. Rue in past seasons has
Alex (1:34:09)
Has
given so little of a fuck if she lives or dies at times that I could see Rue at certain points in the the show that they've shown us. Her just not caring. Like maybe that's evidence more for that she's like not on the hard stuff right now, too. Like she was probably like fairly sober-ish. I mean she just smokes a joint, but like she wasn't on the hard stuff during that scene. I don't think she like necessarily, even though she's as into all this bad stuff, I don't know if she has the same, like
Paige Blaser (1:34:09)
given so little of a fuck if she lives or dies at times that I can see Rue at certain points in the show that they've shown us. Her just not caring. Like True. Maybe that's evidence more for that she's like not on the hard stuff right now too. Like she was probably like fairly sober ish. I she just makes a joint, but like she wasn't on the hard stuff during that scene. I don't think she like necessarily even though she's as into all this bad stuff, I don't know if she has the same like
drive to die that she had in some of the other seasons where she was really like on the edge. Well she said it, like in season two. She told Lexi, like, Thank you for your play. Like without it, I was in a really dark place. Like it wouldn't you know, I was thinking about bad stuff and it really kinda like showed me that like you can create something beautiful. Yeah. Even in like your darkest of times. So yeah, I agree with you. Like if I didn't see it that way, so I'm glad you like said that. Meaning I didn't catch that she was crying 'cause she like lived.
Alex (1:34:36)
drive to die that she had in some of the other seasons where she was really like on the edge. Well she said it like in season two. She told Lexi, like thank you for your play. Like without it, I was in a really dark place. Like it wouldn't you know, I was thinking about bad stuff and it really kinda like showed me that like you can create something beautiful. Yeah. Even in like your darkest of times. So yeah, I agree with you. Like it I didn't see it that way, so I'm glad you like said that. Meaning I didn't catch that she was crying 'cause she like lived
and that is interesting. She's crying before it happens
Paige Blaser (1:35:04)
And that is interesting. She's crying before it happens because
Alex (1:35:06)
She's scared. To die. That's what I mean though. You're right. She cares. But I didn't catch that she was like caring about that. And that's an interesting take. I was more like, I just loved the acting in it. I was like, yeah, like this is gonna be so good. It was a great way to end like the first episode, and I was like, I'm all in. Like, I I get it. We're back. Yep. Thought it was great. Yeah, cool. But
Paige Blaser (1:35:06)
she's scared. To die. That's what I mean, though. You're right. Like I didn't but I didn't catch that she was like caring about that, and that's an interesting take. I was more like I just loved the acting in it. I was like, yeah, like this is gonna be so good. It was a great way to end, like, the first episode, and I was like, I'm all in. Like, I I get it. We're back. Yep. Thought it was great. Yeah, cool. But Alright, sweet. Well maybe it's time for
Alex (1:35:31)
Alright, sweet. Well, maybe it's time for ⁓
Snake Takes! Snake takes Snake Takes! Snake Takes! Snake takes. now we have a thing called snake takes. goodbye, superlatives. Hello, Snake Takes. Snake Takes is just a segment where I get to talk for a very short time about something from the episode that I really care about. And I get to sit back and 'cause I love to deep dive on weird, bizarre, random shit. So this both minimizes the amount at which I
Paige Blaser (1:35:34)
Snake takes snake takes snake takes snake takes snake takes snake takes now we have a thing called snake takes. ⁓ goodbye superlatives, hello snake takes. Snake takes is just a segment where I get to talk for a very short time about something from the episode that I really care about. And I get to sit back and drink and listen.
Alex (1:36:01)
do it and keeps it constrained to one short little time.
So this week, this week's snake take is that this is a the entire first episode, and I suspect probably the whole season, is kind of a love letter to ⁓ a niche like not it's not that niche. They're huge movies, but a small like subgenre of movie, a film that I would call like socal acid noir. Like ⁓ these kind of
Paige Blaser (1:36:04)
So this week this week's snake take is that this is a the entire first episode, and I suspect probably the whole season, is kind of a love letter to ⁓ a niche like not it's not that niche, they're huge movies, but a small like subgenre of movie, a film that I would call like so cal acid noir, like ⁓ these kind of
Alex (1:36:30)
So I'll give some examples. But these are like stories that all take place in Southern California and are
Paige Blaser (1:36:30)
So I'll give some examples. But these are like stories that all take place in Southern California and
are generally like detective stories of some kind that feature a kind of like bumbling, stoned out main character, ⁓ kind of navigating this bizarre labyrinth of like overlapping criminal interests that usually involve like real estate development, Hollywood, drugs, very common. ⁓ I think the most well known example and the one that I think
Alex (1:36:35)
generally like detective stories of some kind that feature a kind of like bumbling, stoned-out main character, ⁓ kind of navigating this bizarre labyrinth of like overlapping criminal interests that usually involve like real estate development, Hollywood, drugs, very common. ⁓ I think the most well-known example and the one that I think
see episode one directly references a lot is The Long Goodbye, which is a great movie.
Paige Blaser (1:37:00)
See episode one directly references a lot is The Long Goodbye, which is a great movie. Other
Alex (1:37:05)
Other ⁓ super well known examples are like the Big Lebowski, Inherent Vice, Under the Silver Lake. That's a crime. Under the Silver Lake I have, but not the other time. ⁓ for instance, Lexi's apartment looks just like the apartment complex from under the Silver Lake.
Paige Blaser (1:37:06)
super well known examples are like The Big Lebowski, Inherent Vice, Under the Silver Lake. Under the Silver Lake I have, but not the other time. For instance, Lexi's apartment looks just like the apartment complex from Under the Silver Lake.
Very, very similar. ⁓ but I say the long goodbye as the biggest reference for a lot of reasons, but especially because I think a lot of this episode is trying to be seventies ⁓ referential in a lot of ways. Lexi or Cassie and Nate's house is this big seventies, like Liberace pad. Cassie and her friend's sunglasses are very seventies, Lexi's bell bottoms, ⁓ Nate's haircut is very seventies, like there's a
Alex (1:37:21)
Very, very similar. But I say the long goodbye as the biggest reference for a lot of reasons, but especially because I think a lot of this episode is trying to be 70s ⁓ referential in a lot of ways. Lexi or Cassie and Nate's house is this big 70s, like Liberace pad. Cassie and her friend's sunglasses are very 70s, Lexi's bell bottoms, ⁓ Nate's haircut is very 70s, like there's a lot of
Paige Blaser (1:37:51)
Fashion,
Alex (1:37:51)
Fashion, clothing, music, ⁓ the architecture, not just of like Lexi's place, but the
Paige Blaser (1:37:52)
clothing, music, the architecture, not just of like Lexi's place but the ⁓ Alamo's house is very seventies. Okay. ⁓ I did not pick up on it. I think there's a lot of seventies SoCal references and obviously they're o already laying the groundwork for the Hollywood storyline, the real estate development storyline. They even explicitly say like real estate development in Southern California is super hard.
Alex (1:38:00)
Alamo's house is very 70s. Okay. there's a lot of I think there's a lot of 70s SoCal references, and obviously they're already laying the groundwork for the Hollywood storyline, the real estate development storyline. They even explicitly say like real estate development in Southern California is super hard.
And that alone is a major plot point in Chinatown, which is one of the best like SoCal detective stories. It's a little less on the acid side of things, but that's a huge plot point of a lot of this type.
Paige Blaser (1:38:18)
And that alone is a major plot point in Chinatown, which is one of the best like SoCal detective stories. It's a little less on the asset side of things, but that's a huge plot point of a lot of this type
Alex (1:38:30)
Of stuff, this overlap of like Hollywood and all these bizarre, like crim quasi-criminal, quasi-legitimate interests that operate in Southern California that all
Paige Blaser (1:38:30)
of stuff. This overlap of like Hollywood and all these bizarre like crim quasi criminal, quasi legitimate interests that operate in Southern California that all
Alex (1:38:40)
intersect with each other. You have like the weird hippie artists coming into the Hollywood angle, meeting with the drug lords, meeting with the Hollywood producers, meeting with the real estate developers, that kind of scenario. So I think this episode is very blatantly calling out to that type of thing. To get like even more explicit.
Paige Blaser (1:38:40)
intersect with each other. You have like the weird hippie artists coming in through the Hollywood angle, meeting with the drug lords, meeting with the Hollywood producers, meeting with the real estate developers, that kind of scenario. So I think this episode is very blatantly calling out to that type of thing. To get like even more explicit,
⁓ Alamo's office looks exactly like the office from the big boss in the long goodbye.
Alex (1:38:59)
⁓ Alamo's office looks exactly like the office from the big boss in the long goodbye.
And in the long goodbye, the main character who's this kind of like bumbling stoner detective like Rue gets called into that office and they threaten to like chop his dick off. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Arnold Schwarzenegger's first role, and it's a very intense scene, and the office looks almost identical, and they threaten to shoot Roo. Then she almost dies. Yes.
Paige Blaser (1:39:06)
And in the long goodbye, the main character who's this kind of like bumbling stoner detective like Rue gets called into that office and they threaten to like chop his dick off. Arnold Schwarzenegger Arnold Schwarzenegger's first role, and it's a very intense scene, and the office looks almost identical and they threaten to shoot Rue. Then she almost dies. Yes.
In that movie, do they have a bowl of bananas on his desk? 'Cause that was one of my notes. I was about to say this. That was one of my notes on Alamo's desk? He had a bowl of bananas over his I think this is crazy. I think the bowl of bananas is a reference to the dick cutting scene from the Long Goodbye, 'cause in that exact office in the Long Goodbye, everybody strips down to their underwear and they're gonna cut this guy's dick off.
Alex (1:39:25)
In that movie, do they have a bowl of bananas on his desk? 'Cause that was one of my notes. I was about to say this. That was one of my notes. On Alamo's desk he had a bowl of bananas on his desk. I think this is crazy. I think the bowl of bananas is a reference to the dick cutting scene from the Long Goodbye, 'cause in that exact office in the Long Goodbye, everybody strips down to their underwear.
cut this guy's dick off.
And I think that because of how similar it is in the it's a s it's a similar setup. A crime lord calls a guy in and he's got his enforcers in the Marshawn Lynch is like the big muscle in the scene. Literally Arnold Schwarzenegger's first movie role is to be like the big muscular guy in a scene just like that. The big scary guy in the back being like we're gonna like fuck you up and they threaten to cut his dick off. So I was kind of thinking the banana is a reference to cutting his dick off.
Paige Blaser (1:39:45)
And I think that because of how similar it is in the it's a s it's a similar setup. A crime lord calls a guy in and he's got his enforcers in the Marshawn Lynch is like the big muscle in the scene. Literally Arnold Schwarzenegger's first movie role is to be like the big muscular guy in a scene just like that. The big scary guy in the back being like, We're gonna like fuck you up.
And they threatened to cut his dick off. So I was kinda thinking the banana is a reference to cutting his dick off. I have that
Alex (1:40:13)
I have that in my notes as like I love that there's this badass like drug dealer and he has a bowl of bananas on his desk. Like it might be a stretch, but I think it's a reference to that. You hey, you say that sometimes, but I feel like you and Sam have similar brains when it comes to like cre the creative side. That's possible.
Paige Blaser (1:40:14)
in my notes as like I love that there's this badass like drug dealer and he has a bowl bananas on his desk. Like It might be a stretch, but I think it's a reference to that. You y hey, you say that sometimes, but I feel like you and Sam have similar brains when it comes to like cre the creative side. It's possible.
Alex (1:40:31)
⁓ also interesting like the movie premiere that you were talking about that the actor the actor that Lexi likes goes to. He's wearing this like brown yellow suit thing with the
Paige Blaser (1:40:32)
you have a lot of similar interests. like the movie premiere that you were talking about that the actor the actor that Lexi likes goes to. He's wearing this like brown yellow suit thing with the
Alex (1:40:43)
The
big gold sunglasses, like all very like seventies tone. All the brown and yellow is super seventies. Sure. So there was just a lot of that like going on. I wonder if I have any other examples. I think that's most of you got a lot. Those are all the examples I pulled, but like I think there's a lot of references. Snake Take is seventies seventies cal so cal Snake Take is it's a reference to SoCal acid noir, and I think the the main examples of that span many years, but the long goodbye I think is the first one. Okay. That's Robert Aldman's like.
Paige Blaser (1:40:43)
big gold sunglasses. Like all very like seventies tone. All the brown and yellow is super seventies. Sure. The tone of everything. I wonder if I have any other examples. I think that's most of it. No, you got a lot. Those are all the examples I pulled. But like I think there's a lot of references to the
Cal SoCal Snake Take is it's a reference to SoCal acid noir and I think the egg the main examples of that span many years, but the long goodbye I think is the first one. Okay. That's Robert Aldman's like
Alex (1:41:13)
I think it's like I think that's the first one of that genre. The player is also like that, which has all the Hollywood overlap, which is kind of coming in. Also, Sharon Stone playing like a very casino esque character, like the character she play. Well, I think Cassie is playing a
Paige Blaser (1:41:14)
I think it's like I think that's the first one of that genre. The player is also like that, which has all the Hollywood overlap, which is kinda coming in. Also Sharon Stone playing like a very casino esque character, like the character she play well, I think Cassie is playing a
Alex (1:41:31)
character like Sharon Stone in Casino, the kind of conniving like woman to like a, you know.
Paige Blaser (1:41:31)
character like Sharon Stone in Casino, the kind of conniving like woman to like a, you know,
rich guy. Okay.
Alex (1:41:38)
Okay.
Yeah, a lot of Hollywood overlap. Not that it matters, but did you like not cheat? But did you like cheat and see if there were any references that actually have been talked about? No, I just made this all up. ⁓ This could all just be bullshit. That's kind of cool. This is my take. But if it comes out later, is my point. People might go, well, he just like looked it up. I think there's at least I would say I would be shocked if there wasn't an intentional reference to the long goodbye in this movie. ⁓ and I'll
Paige Blaser (1:41:41)
yeah, a lot of Hollywood overlap. Not that it matters, but did you ch like not cheat? But did you like cheat and see if there were any references that actually have been talked about? No, I just made this all up. ⁓ This could all just be bullshit. But that's kind of cool. This is my take on But if it comes out later, is my point. People might go, well, he just like looked it up. I think there's at least I would say I would be shocked if there wasn't an intentional reference to the long goodbye in this movie. ⁓ and I'll
also say.
Alex (1:42:08)
Also say I
Paige Blaser (1:42:09)
I think the interesting thing is that maybe we can extrapolate what will happen throughout the season by looking at these kind of movies. And what usually happens in these kind of movies is kind of like a tragic
Alex (1:42:09)
think the interesting thing is that maybe we can extrapolate what will happen throughout the season by looking at these kind of movies. And what usually happens in these kind of movies is kind of like a tragic
Paige Blaser (1:42:21)
it's kind of like a tragic personal victory.
Alex (1:42:21)
It's kind of like a tragic personal victory.
Usually like the guy doesn't win in the traditional sense. When you say the guy, you mean the main character. The main character. Usually it's always a guy. But Rue, you're right. Rue is a Rue is maybe the first woman in this role, perhaps. I don't know. Interesting. But typically the the person they're trying to save, usually it's a woman they want to save. Usually they don't save the woman. Sometimes because they can't, sometimes because they don't want to be saved. The system is too big and labyrinthine to like understand
Paige Blaser (1:42:24)
Usually like the guy doesn't win in the traditional sense. When you say the guy, you mean the main character. The main character. Usually it's always a guy. But Rue, you're right. Rue is a Rue is maybe the first woman in this role, perhaps. I don't know. Interesting. But typically the the person they're trying to save, usually it's a woman they want to save. Usually they don't save the woman. Sometimes because they can't, sometimes because they don't want to be saved. The system is too big and labyrinthine to like understand
Alex (1:42:51)
Or win against. So you're never gonna have a true victory.
Paige Blaser (1:42:51)
or win against. So you're never gonna have a true victory.
But usually the main character gets some kind of symbolic victory, maybe like a personal revenge, or like they owed somebody that's dead like a favor or something, and typically that's fulfilled. Maybe it'll owe Lori all the money. I suspect that if we like, you know, led to that similar ending, Rue would have kind of a tragic end, but a bit in a way that's a bit of a personal victory.
Alex (1:42:54)
But usually the main character gets some kind of symbolic victory, maybe like a personal revenge or like they owed somebody that's dead like a favor or something, and typically that's fulfilled. Maybe she'll owe Lori all the money. ⁓ Like
You know, maybe she's Do you wanna be as bold and saving someone and saying sober or something? I don't know. Do you wanna be as bold and tell the euphorans that you've literally told me you think Rue might die this season? I just thought it was a good question. I think like what are the odds? I don't but I'm give me the the betting odds on does Roo die or not die in season three. I lean towards she dies, but I don't know. I don't think she's gonna die. I'd give it sixty forty she dies. Interesting.
Paige Blaser (1:43:21)
Do you want to be as bold and tell the euphs? Saving someone and saying sober or something. I don't Do you want to be as bold and tell the euphorans that you've literally told me you think we might die this season?
I just thought it was a good question. I think like what are the odds? I don't, but I'm Give me the the betting odds on does Roo die or not die in season three. I lean toward she dies, but I don't know. I don't think she's gonna die. I'd give it sixty forty she dies. Interesting.
I'd have to think about it more. I haven't like I don't know my mind has not gone there. I also don't bet. I just think it's crazy that betting markets have taken over like the world. So it's weird but like I feel like
Alex (1:43:48)
I'd have think about it more. I haven't like I don't know. My mind has not gone there. I also don't bet. I just think it's crazy that betting markets have taken over, like, the world. So it's weird, but like I feel like
It's almost inevitable that everything now gets like framed as like the odds or the bet, which I don't really like. I should stop doing that. But I don't I just want to make it clear I'm not like actually like betting, but I would be like you told me. But I'm also curious how like I didn't even think about it. Like fuck the Super Bowl. Polymarket should like putting up the odds on like does Rue die in season three? You know? Sure. But I was just bringing that up 'cause I I thought that was a nuts take 'cause I had not thought of Rue dying at all. But
Paige Blaser (1:44:00)
It's almost inevitable that everything now gets like framed as like the odds or the bet, which I don't really like. I should stop doing that. But I don't I just want to make it clear I'm not like actually like betting, but I wouldn't No, I meant you told me though that you thought she might die. And I like, I didn't even think about her dying. You know? Sure.
But I was just bringing that up 'cause I I thought that was a nuts take because I had not thought of Rude dying at all. But
so in conclusion, snake takes. There you go. The snake take of the Snake snake take of the snake. Season three is a SoCal acid noir. So yeah, Alex will be doing his little deep dive because we both know that Paige, you know, nor doesn't care about this stuff.
Alex (1:44:28)
So in conclusion, snake takes. There you go. The snake take of the the snake take of episode one. Season three is a so cal acid noir. So yeah, Alex will be doing his little deep dive 'cause we both know that Paige, you know, Norton doesn't care about this stuff.
The only other point on the video is a good point. We looked at the credits and the Batman, the rear drives and the Uber is Eli Roth. Played by Batman. Played by Eli Roth. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Paige Blaser (1:44:43)
The only other point I'll give. We looked at the credits and the Batman, the rear drives and the Uber is Eli Roth. Played by Batman. Played by Eli Roth. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yep.
Which is crazy. I ⁓ I knew he was in it and what's funny is there's been so much press. This just goes to show like press can be kind of annoying.
Alex (1:44:53)
Which is crazy. I ⁓ I knew he was in it and what's funny is there's been so much press. This just goes to show like press can be kind of annoying.
Unless he comes back in some shape or form. I'm like, who cares that he was in the show? He was in it for two seconds. And you would never know it was him. No, and it wasn't that great or that funny or like he didn't say anything that I was like, like Elizabeth. It's kinda funny 'cause he's talking about what a shithole like downtown LA is and we were there recently and it was a shithole, but yeah. Yeah. But no, Eli Roth's Batman was unhinged.
Paige Blaser (1:45:02)
Unless he comes back in some shape or form, I'm like, who cares that he was in the show? He was in it for two seconds. And you would never know it was him. No, and it wasn't that great or that funny or like he didn't say anything that I was like, like Elizabeth. Because it is recently and it was a shithole, but Yeah. Yeah. But no, Eli Roth's Batman was unhinged.
And there's more cameos to come and I'm sure we'll have a lot to say about it. But
Alex (1:45:23)
And there's more cameos to come and I'm sure we'll have a lot to say about it. But
Paige Blaser (1:45:28)
Well that's a good snake take. I like it. Snake take. S Maybe giving a glimpse of what the season will look like. I don't No, that's good. I agree. Well, is there anything else you haven't thought of? I wanted to do one more look at my notes, but I think we've covered like a lot. Quite a bit. I mean I feel like it'll
Alex (1:45:28)
maybe giving a glimpse of what the season will look like. I don't No, that's good. I agree. Well, is there anything else you haven't thought of? I wanted to do one more look at my notes, but I think we've covered like a lot. Quite a bit. I mean I feel like it'll
Paige Blaser (1:45:48)
it's only gonna get crazier. 'Cause it's euphoria. It's gonna get more and more unhinged. I think this was such a
Alex (1:45:48)
It's only gonna get crazier 'cause it's euphoria. It's gonna get more and more unhinged. I think this was such a
when I say soft opening, I mean I loved it, but I I think it's gonna get crazy. Like I think it's gonna of course it'll be It's Euphoria, of course it's gonna get crazy. I agree. I'm excited for the season. There's a lot of speculation that this is the last season, so I'm treating it as if this is our last season because I think that's a smart way to like go about it. But I d also think it's unknown. Sam's
Paige Blaser (1:45:54)
When I say soft opening, I mean I loved it, but I I think it's gonna get crazy. Like I think it's gonna amplify. I agree. I'm excited for the season. There's a lot of speculation that this is the last season, so I'm treating it as if this is our last season because I think that's a smart way to like go about it. But I d also think it's unknown. Sam's
Alex (1:46:18)
Sam said, like, you know, I'm always thinking about euphoria. So you're like, well,
Paige Blaser (1:46:18)
Sam said, like, you know, I'm always thinking about euphoria. So you're like, well
Alex (1:46:22)
but I am gonna go into this season like it's our last. Sam. I'm excited. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. I also wanted to, before we, you know, take off, and this feels so weird. I can't believe we just podcast it for like all about that. It feels weird. I'm so bad. I know. Cheers. It's fun. Cheers. I'm so excited to hear what everybody thinks. ⁓ and on that note.
Paige Blaser (1:46:22)
But I am gonna go into this season like it's our last. And I'm excited. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. I also wanted to before we, you know, take off, and this feels so weird. I can't believe we just podcasted for like all about that. It feels weird. I'm still not used to it. I know. Cheers. It's fun. Cheers. I'm so excited to hear what everybody thinks. ⁓ and on that note
Alex (1:46:47)
⁓
Paige Blaser (1:46:49)
I wanted to I'll post it on our socials and on our website and pretty much anywhere where everyone follows, but we have this news segment that we want to do at the end of each show called Bitch You Better Be Joking, which I forgot. We didn't even show our shirts. We're wearing our We're wearing our Is This Fucking Play About Us. But ⁓ all that to be said, Maddie's an icon. We love the bitch you better be joking. And
Alex (1:46:49)
I wanted to I'll post it on our socials and on our website and pretty much anywhere where everyone follows. But we have this news segment that we want to do at the end of each show called Bitch You Better Be Joking, which I forgot. We didn't even show our shirts. We're wearing our We're wearing our Is this fucking play about us? But ⁓ all that to be said, Maddie's an icon. We love the bitch you better be joking. And
And
the segment essentially I'll have a link where you can leave a voicemail to us and you can, I don't know, provide a hot take. Maybe argue something that Alex and I talked about on the show that you think you agree with or you disagree with. Like we are so here to hear it all. And is there anything else like I I want it to be very like open forum, but also like, you know, maybe something we didn't pick up on in the episode that you feel Alex and I would be interested in.
Paige Blaser (1:47:19)
The segment essentially I'll have a link where you can leave a voicemail to us and you can, I don't know, provide a hot take. Maybe argue something that Alex and I talked about on the show that you think you agree with or you disagree with. Like we are so here to hear it all. And is there anything else like I I want it to be a very like open forum, but also like, you know, maybe something we didn't pick up on in the episode that you feel Alex and I would be interested in.
Alex (1:47:47)
Uh-huh. What did we miss? Share a strong opinion. What should we talk about that we haven't talked about? Yeah, we just want to hear everything. What were we wrong about? Sometimes we have so much fun, like just us, like dissecting everything, but we love to hear what you also think. Because sometimes it feels like we're just the only two talking. Because we are the only two talking. So I'd love to hear a fresh voice. So that's why we thought it'd be fun to do like a voicemail. you can remain anonymous, it's no big deal. We just kind of want to hear.
Paige Blaser (1:47:48)
what did we miss? What did we miss? What should we talk about that we haven't talked about? Yeah, we just want to hear everything. What were we wrong about? Sometimes we have so much fun, like just us like dissecting everything, but we love to hear what you also think 'cause sometimes it feels like we're just the only two talking. 'Cause we are the only two talking. So I'd love to hear a fresh voice. So that's why we thought it'd be fun to do like a voicemail.
you can remain anonymous, it's no big deal. We just kinda wanna hear everybody's
Alex (1:48:17)
Everybody's takes and comment on them because why not? It's fun. Hit us up. So I'll be sure to post that. But bitch, you better be joking. Hit us up. Other than that, anything else, Alex, that you wanna follow me on the letterboxed ⁓ at Young Chicken. Y-U-NYUN G. Okay, I'll put it in the bio.
Paige Blaser (1:48:18)
takes and comment on them, because why not? It's fun. Hit us up. So I'll be sure to post that. But bitch, you better be joking. Hit us up. Other than that, anything else, Alex, that you wanna follow me on the letterbox ⁓ at Young Chicken. Y U N Y U N G. Okay, I'll I'll put it in the bio.
Alex (1:48:38)
Also, speaking of chickens, I thought this episode was so bur like pro-bird. And then they killed that chicken. Alright, this is where I drink.
Paige Blaser (1:48:38)
Also, speaking of chickens, I thought this episode was so bur like pro bird. And then they killed that chicken. Alright, this is where I drink.
Alex (1:48:47)
I'm like, Alex, I don't care about the birds of euphoria. Okay, but you were really It was hard when they came out. When the chicken c when they cracked the chicken's neck, Alex like yelped out loud like a baby. It's gonna be hard for me to keep watching after that, but I'll push it. Well you better. We have a podcast to record. I was deeply offended.
Paige Blaser (1:48:47)
I'm like, Alex, I don't care about the birds of euphoria. Okay, but you were really sad. When the chicken c when they cracked the chicken's neck, Alex like yelped out loud like a baby. It's gonna be hard for me to keep watching after that, but I'll Okay. Yeah, well you better. We have a podcast to record. I was deeply offended.
Alex (1:49:09)
Everyone else is like offended by like the sex work, like Cindy Sweeney and Alex is offended by a chicken dying in the episode. That just goes to show where we're headed this season. And on that note, I'm pretty amped. Yeah, same. I'm amped. That's a eforic episode. That's a euphoric. We're just right back where we started. Hell yeah, baby. Alright, love you guys and we'll see you next week. See you next Tuesday.
Paige Blaser (1:49:09)
Everyone else is like offended by like the sex work, like Sydney Sweeney and Alex is offended by a chicken dying in the episode. That just goes to show where we're headed this season. And on that note, I'm pretty amped. Yeah, same. I'm amped. Well, cheers. A great episode. That's Sweetwork. We're just right back where we started. Hell yeah, baby. Alright, love you guys, and we'll see you next week. See you next season.
So stupid.
Alex (1:49:37)
So stupid.